Roberto Martinez Shenanigans: All Reaction Here

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

He's dead mate.

Still would

 

[nigelcoyb]

Ok, that is in 11 years times. Wigan suffered loads of heavy defeats in 4 years times. How many 16, 18?

yeah but they're wigan ....

 

[kenada_blue]

As others have said, as far as transfer errors goes, Boselli wasn't any more of a horrorshow than Kroldrup or Bilyaletdinov (or Bebe, Kleberson, Jordi Cruyff, Poborski, Veron, Djemba Djemba etc.). He's done well in various types of transfer:

Big money risk: N'Zogbia - fairly big money for Wigan. Got him playing the best football of his career and sold him for profit.

Foreign import: Kone - bit of a hit-miss journeyman but was consistently impressive last season.

Lower league potential: Moses - moved quickly while others dithered and got a very good player who was sold for ~8m profit.

SCOTLAND: Maloney - had one indifferent season at Villa and returned to Celtic, yet an absolute snip at under £1,000,000 as Martinez knows how and where to play him effectively.

The 'can do a job' signing: the likes of Alcaraz and Figueroa certainly haven't been bad buys for Wigan, although we'd obviously hope for players of a higher standard. Ramis looked okay before he got injured, too, and while some people are unconvinced, McCarthy has looked very good at times.

Different budget and different needs means he'll be tested if he comes here, but his history (some very good buys for Swansea, too) suggests he's capable of doing well with what he has.

The concern over his tactics is justified: Wigan were not just beaten but absolutely hammered far too often. I'm hoping he retains key coaching staff and doesn't attempt a radical and immediate shift in playing style, as what we currently have is, when it works, a solid system of decent football and organisation. If he can maintain the structure and add a little more intelligence and variety to our attacking play we might be very happy. If he attempts to 'implement' his 'philosophy' from the off it means an inevitable transitional period that might yield some unwanted results.

Ultimately I'm somewhere between satisfied and happy. He's an intelligent coach with real ambition. He rejected Villa because he smartly saw a club on the wane. He rejected Liverpool because he wants to be more than a 'head coach'. If he comes we've shown that we're no 'small time' club who'll plump for a Hughes or O'Neill, but also not one that is willing to take the massive risk of appointing someone with no PL experience. When we consider our finances and our current stature, it's a sensible decision. Not thrilling, but with the faintest glimmer of promise.

It'll be a culture shock for him. Bigger talent, bigger history, vocal fan base, and backroom full of ex Evertonians who will tell him how things are done.

He ends up getting "it" he'll do fine, he's got his head screwed up. Aw

 

[catcherintherye]

Moyes sent them out like that was going to happen every week if we went one nil up he'd be shouting "get back you tools ... we're in trouble now"

Have you watched any of our games this season? Where you at the West Ham game? I have never seen a Wigan side play like that.

 

[harry]

I don't live in the UK, do you want a foreigner to come and get your job?

you are a very angry man/woman. I was only asking. you can have my job.

 

[hktoffee]

And look at the budget and at the defence. We know Moyes is good at the defence and Martinez perhaps is not. Just like Martinez is good when it comes to attacking and Moyes is not.

You can't just use some previous results for wigan against Martinez. Everton lost 3-0 against them and Moyes didn't have a clue how to change it. We have lost to lower league teams in the past, Blackburn at home 4-1 in the past. Have we won away at the top 4 clubs? No we havn't - Wigan have. Does that make Martinez better than Moyes - of course not, it just means they are different style managers, each with strengths and weaknesses

I think Martinez took defeats too easily. That's what I believe.

 

[hktoffee]

you are a very angry man/woman. I was only asking. you can have my job.

Sorry man I am kind of furious because I fear for Everton.

 

[BernieWright13]

Moyes sent them out like that was going to happen every week if we went one nil up he'd be shouting "get back you tools ... we're in trouble now"

Amen to this

 

[AaronTheBlue]

Let's just see how he does eh lads.

 

[nigelcoyb]

Have you watched any of our games this season? Where you at the West Ham game? I have never seen a Wigan side play like that.

Alright just the home games then ...tsk!

 

[njligernj]

"Roberto Martinez may have achieved lower leagues positions than Steve Bruce but he did that with a halving of the wage bill and reduction in transfer funds."

Was it literally half? No agenda just curious in the actual figures.

"he has got Wigan Athletic playing the most attractive, exciting, attacking and effective football we have ever played and has simultaneously made the organisation and defence rock solid.

?

EFC have needed a "Shanks" since the 70s someone of vision and principle to change things - not only win but inspire the whole club and shake this "impending doom" aspect that has grown obscenely in this last decade.

That would be nice. He does seem like a positive bloke with a good "aura" for lack of a better term which is nice.

I'm going to try my best not to be too negative about this, but it's difficult, especially when you take on board we're actually paying money to bring Martinez here.

Not that much money though. I'm not sure I believe the 2m figure (even though leg break said it). Unless they tore up his contract and signed him back at 2m p/a (for the extra comp) it was widely reported (I believe confirmed by Roberto in an interview) he had a clause which reduced his contract should they be relegated. We should be buying out his Championship contract surely?

... finishing 8th in the space of two seasons, laying the foundations for Brenda to come in and take them up.

Can we come up with a better "insult" than "Brenda" FFS? How is that even an insult? Do we live in 1955? He's the manager of the worst team in the world -- we need something more fitting than "you are a female." Also Roberto ... Roberta ... let's step it up.

Moyes uttered the "People's Club" no long after appointed, what could Martinez possibly do to curt favour with the fans ? media ? .. as sure as hell he'll have to do it.

As others have said a sly dig at the badge would be top stuff but probably quite unlikely.

I love foreign players with boss names and stepovers

Nevillo?

 

[BernieWright13]

Have you watched any of our games this season? Where you at the West Ham game? I have never seen a Wigan side play like that.

Typical moyes though, get them fired up when it doesnt matter and no-one gives a sh!te

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Let's just see how he does eh lads.

If he's got us bottom 3 by Jan, can we all be allowed to be grumpy then please?

I'll let you judge

This is on you my friend

Don't let us down

Own the moment

 

[Petit]

A thing we should all remember about Martinez is how young he is.

When Moyes was his age he´d just come to Everton. Remember how much "better" DM became with experience during his 40s.

 

[EFC David]

What song will we have about him?

"MARTINEZ OOH OOOH, MARTINEZ OOH OOOH, HE CAME FROM WIGUN TWON TO MANAGE EVER TAN?" or " Roberto Martinez, Roberto MARTINEZ HAS MORE TROPHYS THAN DAVID MOYES?"