Roberto Martinez Shenanigans: All Reaction Here

[Fazakerley Fan]

Yes....plus they are banned from the Europa Cup next tear because of "financial irregularities".

Martinez isn't going to go there.

He is coming to us and I for one am quite enthused about it.

I wonder when the new fixture list comes out?

sometime in mid June i think

 

[EFC Si]

A few weeks i'd wager.

Wigan away first game of the season NAILED ON.

I'd hope not mate!

 

[royalblue66]

A few weeks i'd wager.

Wigan away first game of the season NAILED ON.

Ye in the Championship

 

[Brennan]

I'd hope not mate!

Financial irregularities mate. We're going down.

 

[TippEverton]

June the 19th for the fixture list.

 

[maddison]

Periera can do one. It's all about Robbie! now hurry up and sign him BK

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If Periera came to Everton, I don't know who would get p***ed off first...him or the fans. And then they'd blame Bill!

It would certainly send out a statement that is more in line with the ethos and motto of our club. Some of us grew up when EFC dominated and won leagues, for us NSNO means something and Vitor would represent that ethos. Is he a risk, sure, but he is also a statement of intent. He's an exciting coach, he's used to winning things, and he's very well regarded. His weakness, apparently he isn't arrogant or charismatic enough for FC Porto. So what, Moyes was hardly MR Personality.

 

[Brennan]

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It would certainly send out a statement that is more in line with the ethos and motto of our club. Some of us grew up when EFC dominated and won leagues, for us NSNO means something and Vitor would represent that ethos. Is he a risk, sure, but he is also a statement of intent. He's an exciting coach, he's used to winning things, and he's very well regarded. His weakness, apparently he isn't arrogant or charismatic enough for FC Porto. So what, Moyes was hardly MR Personality.

I'm fairly sure Walter Smith could have won the Portugese league with Porto.

 

[TippEverton]

I'm fairly sure Walter Smith could have won the Portugese league with Porto.

Haha, no way mate, be at least 10 points behind Benfica.

 

[Ihaters]

Wigan HAD to win that game, he had to commit players forward. I wouldn’t say Walcott shredded them either. Wigan were the better side until Mcmanaman went off injured. The goals were largely individual errors in that particular game.

Wigan played at Goodison twice last season and were arguably the better side on both occasions.

I’m not advocating Martinez, Laudrup has been my first choice throughout. But I think it’s unfair to judge him based on selected games with inferior players. I think that EB article actually has quotes from Roberto saying that he’s adapted his style to suit the players at his previous clubs, which I think we both agree is the best approach. People constantly give out this 29% win percentage, which is purely his Wigan one when it’s much higher if you include his Swansea days. A counter may be that Swansea were in a different league etc. so does that mean Vitor’s is 0%? Not saying you, but Vitor seems to be first choice with a lot on these boards and hardly anyone knows anything about him. I’ve spoken to 3 Portuguese people (all Sporting fans) and they don’t really rate him. They say as long as he beats Benfica they’ll win the league and he’s been quite lucky in achieving that so far. The real test for managers at Porto is Europe and he’s failed there.

Has our GD really been that good under Moyes. Maybe I need to go back and check the stats, I always think of us as a marginal side, who tend to finish with a low GD for our placing, due to 1 goal swings in most of the games.

As you say we’ll find out soon enough. I’m just looking forward to a different approach. For all the faults and people picking it apart, I actually like the positive approach to life that Martinez brings as opposed to the negative attitude that Moyes would often give off. If you were a player at Everton would you welcome the new manager coming in who favours positivity and attacking football. Who doesn’t hang his strikers out to dry but instead will try to find the positives in your performance, or would you want the manager who had his best attacking player back defending in his own area for large parts of the game? You could argue the same for the defenders, ‘Jags, hit the front man!’ or ‘Jags, pass and move!’ as a footballer I know which approach I’d prefer.

I agree with most of this, don't think Moyes hangs his strikers out to dry though, when they are s**t he says it, but generally I think he backs them to a fault.
How many games did Saha and Jelavic get to try and get their form back for example?
Also think you massively under sell just how good our football has been, we dominate possession in most games and play some lovely football, hoof ball, direct ball dependent on the circumstances under Moyes.


I like this though..
I think that EB article actually has quotes from Roberto saying that he’s adapted his style to suit the players at his previous clubs, which I think we both agree is the best approach...

Thats great news. Also the EB mentioned how high up they were against Arsenal if I remember rightly.

And I also dissagree wbout Walcott, he ran past them with ease on many occasions in that game because they defended too highly.

As for the rest I completely agree... It will be nice to see more attacking football, more positivity, more going for the win when we are behind, I also wanted Laudrup but won't mind Martinez, and I also think the win ratio is a red herring.
I am not slating the guy, just concerned he's going to go all out attack and lose us games with a high pressing line that's innapropriate.. Sometimes it's exactly what's needed of course, but if there is evidence he changes with the team I am more than happy with that.

+15 GD by the way, Liverpool got 28 (nearly all Suarez), the next one down from us in terms of GD is -4. Everyone who got a better GD spent vast sums of money. Everyone else is at least 19 goals away from us.

 

[maddison]

I'm fairly sure Walter Smith could have won the Portugese league with Porto.

I'm pretty sure he'd have done a better job at Wigan........

 

[tim cahill]

It better be Martinez now. I chucked a load of money on him after whelans interview yesterday!

 

[Fazakerley Fan]

I hear Raymond Domenech and Andrea Stramaccionoi are being heavily linked with being on Bill's 'list'

 

[Fazakerley Fan]

It better be Martinez now. I chucked a load of money on him after whelans interview the yesterday!

same here

 

[catcherintherye]

It certainly was'nt a ludicrous assertion, it was an opinion, just like yours.We shall wait and see how whatsisname gets on a t United, just as we will wait and see how whoever is Evertons new manager gets on. Whatsisname is manager at Man Utd., not because he is the best manager in the world, but because he fits the bill as far as the Glazers accountants can see. Do you really think he is the best that Man Utd can do? In my opinion he will be looking for a job within 12 months and Man Utd. will be looking all over the world for a manager, and not just 30 miles down the East Lancs Road. Whatsisnames biggest problem, apart from his limited tactical nous, is the fact that Fergie will be peering down at him from the directors box at every game, and that many at OT will take more notice of Sir Alex and Ryan Giggs than they will take of whatsisname.

Oh dear Steve, I can feel the bitterness pouring out. Are you not big enough to admit you were wrong. Manchester United could have had any manager in world football, and they choose Moyes. Moyes has clearly turned down several jobs bigger than Everton (bilbao, Malaga and possibly Schalke).
Also simple question, given the "limited tactical nouse" of his predecessaur do you see Martinez finishing higher than 6th when appointed? That should be a fairly simple task, given how limited Moyes was, especially given he was so poor you can't bring yourself to say his name?

 

[Debaser]

I would prefer Pereira or Bielsa, but would take Martinez over any internal appointment for sure.