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I think you'll find that I was on his back after City...
If I wasn't banned at the time of his hat-trick at Sunderland, I would have ramped it up too, I'm not going to lay off until the club is cured of its sweet Belgian poison
There's copious amounts of fans who still consider Barkely as potentially being a world class player, so their view of Rom is automatically inflated.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a big advocate of Rom as a centre forward due to his significant scoring rate but he's certainly not a world class star.
Could he be? Perhaps in the right squad with the right players to support him, yet then arguably that opens whether he'd achieved it individually.
Is Rom to be credited with an "assist" because Bolasie pushed him off the ball and scored himself
It's about the only way to get an assist out of the selfish git
I'm not optimistic about our next 10 games or so up to christmas. We needed to be cashing in on these games.
Tony Hibbert's 3rd leg
Banned as requested
I don't think anyone has said Lukaku is a pressing striker. Doesn't make him a bad one.
People are obsessing too much of high pressing, it's the new fad hipster tactic. Last year was counter attacking. Year before was possession. And because Lukaku isn't a press striker, he's automatically redundant to some.
And let's be honest, his service has been awful. If he isn't getting the ball in the right areas, he's not going to be scoring more goals and not going to be assisting his teammates. Only the absolute best in the world can adapt to different manager's systems completely.
Would Lukaku do well at Arsenal, Barcelona or Madrid? No probably not. Would he do well at Athletico Madrid, Bayern or Juventus? Quite possibly yes. And it comes as no surprise that the last three teams would be the better suitors, Juventus and Bayern have already showed a vague interest.
It's the same reason Sturridge has been dropped by Klopp. Doesn't fit the system and the team are doing better without him. Pogba had the benefit of others in the Juventus midfielder that allowed him the freedom he doesn't have at United. Different systems same player.
Yet Lukaku keeps doing his job, scoring goals, as well as creating chances and holding up play, despite playing in a completely different system this year.
Would I cash in for the right amount of money? Yes if Koeman is going to see out his pressing style. But we will find it immensely difficult to find a pressing striker who can also match Lukaku's match winning ability. Not saying Rom should stay forever. Limited is totally the wrong label to use, otherwise 99% of players should be labeled the same. Realistically only an extremely small percentage of players can actually fully adapt to wholly differing styles of play.
People are obsessing too much of high pressing, it's the new fad hipster tactic. Last year was counter attacking. Year before was possession. And because Lukaku isn't a press striker, he's automatically redundant to some.
And let's be honest, his service has been awful. If he isn't getting the ball in the right areas, he's not going to be scoring more goals and not going to be assisting his teammates. Only the absolute best in the world can adapt to different manager's systems completely.
Would Lukaku do well at Arsenal, Barcelona or Madrid? No probably not. Would he do well at Athletico Madrid, Bayern or Juventus? Quite possibly yes. And it comes as no surprise that the last three teams would be the better suitors, Juventus and Bayern have already showed a vague interest.
It's the same reason Sturridge has been dropped by Klopp. Doesn't fit the system and the team are doing better without him. Pogba had the benefit of others in the Juventus midfielder that allowed him the freedom he doesn't have at United. Different systems same player.
Yet Lukaku keeps doing his job, scoring goals, as well as creating chances and holding up play, despite playing in a completely different system this year.
Would I cash in for the right amount of money? Yes if Koeman is going to see out his pressing style. But we will find it immensely difficult to find a pressing striker who can also match Lukaku's match winning ability. Not saying Rom should stay forever. Limited is totally the wrong label to use, otherwise 99% of players should be labeled the same. Realistically only an extremely small percentage of players can actually fully adapt to wholly differing styles of play.
You're not optimistic about anything though Tim?
Woolly Blue
Player Valuation: £80m
For the reasons you've stated about his all round game, I doubt many people would, hand on heart, say he's world class.
Mind you, he's slowly improving his all round game so you never know.
Given he'll probably score 20 goals or so this season I guess the question is, which would you rather have, a Rom goal scoring machine or someone who's got a better all round game but might only score a dozen or so goals a season ?
Personally I'd stick with Rom and find a player, or players to complement what he does.
Woolly Blue
Player Valuation: £80m
I admire the way you're prepared to side with Tubey on this issue and wish you well.
Play an actual number 10 or somebody that isnt Ross Barkley behind him and it would allow him to get in the game more, somebody who can actually link up with the midfield and the striker rather than somebody who wanders round the pitch wondering if he left the iron on.
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