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Romelu Lukaku

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Not arguing with you as I know what you're getting at, but we're actually in a way better position than we usually are. He's got 3 years left on his contract and we didn't let Stones leave without a fight did we? So it's not even clear whether Martinez and Moshiri will allow him to leave anyway, but even if they do, there are only a handful of clubs who will be able to get him.

I reckon Madrid and Bayern would be able to get him and you can add Man United to that list if they come 4th. You've then got a few more potential places he could go like Man City and PSG but I don't think (understandably) that they have the same pull as a Madrid or Bayern. Dortmund could be possible, but I can't see him going to the likes of Arsenal or Juventus.

It's then whether we would even sell him to an English club.

Bayern or Madrid for £60m+ and I think all parties would be happy.

Bayern have never paid more than 31.6m pound for a player mate, which is still the Bundesliga transfer record, no chance on earth he is going to Germany as they'd have to almost double the German transfer record paid for a player
 
What do you think he/she is wrong about? Looks pretty much on the money to me.

Three of those 4 teams are changing manager - possibly the 4th will also, each of those has thrown money every season at the league - especially untied and look where it has them, two of them - maybe 3 will be without Cl football which will seriously impact the calibre of player they can bring in, every other club in the league has massively closed the distance with them in terms of finances and the calibre of player they can now attract.

Spurs aren't going to suddenly fade away from the top 4, neither are west ham, the rs will be stronger by far next season, other teams who have improved this year will next season invest on what they have rather than be fleeced as the financial landsccape has changed.

So basically i disagree with everything that he posted - as what he posted is basically the type of thing that David James or Phil Thompson would come out with - due to their fount of footballing knowledge
 
Three of those 4 teams are changing manager - possibly the 4th will also, each of those has thrown money every season at the league - especially untied and look where it has them, two of them - maybe 3 will be without Cl football which will seriously impact the calibre of player they can bring in, every other club in the league has massively closed the distance with them in terms of finances and the calibre of player they can now attract.

Spurs aren't going to suddenly fade away from the top 4, neither are west ham, the rs will be stronger by far next season, other teams who have improved this year will next season invest on what they have rather than be fleeced as the financial landsccape has changed.

So basically i disagree with everything that he posted - as what he posted is basically the type of thing that David James or Phil Thompson would come out with - due to their fount of footballing knowledge
I think you're chatting utter balls with all due respect. Even without CL football, you think Manchester United under Mourinho and Chelsea under Conte will struggle to attract the right calibre of player because they aren't in it next season? Of course they will.

Manchester United, Chelsea and Manchester City will be in the top 4 next year and I'm more than happy to be vaulted on that.

It's hardly an outlandish prediction is it?
 
I think you're chatting utter balls with all due respect. Even without CL football, you think Manchester United under Mourinho and Chelsea under Conte will struggle to attract the right calibre of player because they aren't in it next season? Of course they will.

Manchester United, Chelsea and Manchester City will be in the top 4 next year and I'm more than happy to be vaulted on that.

It's hardly an outlandish prediction is it?

All 3 with new managers, (probably), all 3 need massive squad overhauls, I wouldnt be so sure. Not in this day and age.
 

You can't score this many goals and still be in a team finishing in the bottom half of the table! It's no surprise that he wants to move on to a club that might actually win something. RM isn't the messiah we thought he'd be and surely it's apparent to the playing staff as well. Best squad in ages, but another mediocre manager....
 
I think you're chatting utter balls with all due respect. Even without CL football, you think Manchester United under Mourinho and Chelsea under Conte will struggle to attract the right calibre of player because they aren't in it next season? Of course they will.

Manchester United, Chelsea and Manchester City will be in the top 4 next year and I'm more than happy to be vaulted on that.

It's hardly an outlandish prediction is it?

No it's exactly what everyone predicted this season so not outlandish at all, united splashed the cash mate 300m of it - did it suddenly propel them into the top 4 this year and challenging for the title?
Liverpool for the past ten years have spent an outlandish amount of money - how has it worked for them - regularly challenging for titles and constant presence in the top4?

Conte will have a very small amount of time to work with this Chelsea team and start sorting thigns out - very similar to LVG when he arrived at United and they are in an utter mess - to expect them to challenge for the title as a given i wouldn't say is a given by any means

No one actually knows yet if Mourinho will even be at United next season - if he is then it could go one of two ways as lets face it he has never ever finished a stint at a club the way it ended at Chelsea, going to be huge pressure instantly he goes their and he crumbled under that this season

and your already veering away from your initially prediction of the 'sky 4' back to the status quo by ommiting arsenal mate? So are spurs going to go back to being well adrift of the top 4 then next season and if so why? - because united and chelsea and city spend a lot of money seems to be your reasoning

as for how no CL effects a team - look at the calibre of player united have signed with and without it, look at Liverpool mate, it has a noticable impact and will force those clubs to vastly overpay to be able to make up for not being in it, the true top players simply arent interested in playing in the prem anyway so everyone is shopping from the same shop now and the true players who can make a massive impact arent coming this league.

City are the only ones who looked nailed on to get back on track - purely on Guardiola and the squad they already have in place being good enough - but even that isn't guaranteed as he has never played in a league with this much competition - he excels in a two horse race - can he sustain that sucess when their is 4-5 teams close to being level and most other teams have some exceptional players like Payet, mahrez etc
 
I think you're chatting utter balls with all due respect. Even without CL football, you think Manchester United under Mourinho and Chelsea under Conte will struggle to attract the right calibre of player because they aren't in it next season? Of course they will.

Manchester United, Chelsea and Manchester City will be in the top 4 next year and I'm more than happy to be vaulted on that.

It's hardly an outlandish prediction is it?

For pretty much his whole life United have dominated English football. Even in their last two awful seasons they have made CL and this year still could. I can't see anything putting him off United. Whether they will offer 60m is another story, they spent a lot on Martial and may wait to see if Rashford is the real deal.
 
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For pretty much his whole life United have dominated English football. Even in their last two awful seasons they have made CL and this year still could. I can't see anything putting him off United. Whether they will offer 60m is another story, they spent a lot on Martial and may wait to see if Rashford is the real deal.
It would be an excellent move for him no doubt about it. They may not be in the Champions league next season but players are not stupid they'll know they be in there sooner rather than later, most probably the season after next.

Bluestevon's claim that because clubs aren't in the CL next year that will affect the calibre of player they can sign is pretty daft. For starters money talks and the likes of United, City and Chelsea still have more than the rest despite TV deals.

All three of those clubs will also have managers that will be a drawer to top top players whether they're in CL or not.

And again despite the TV deals and the gap "closing", I'd bet those three clubs will still sit at the top of the money spent table before the summer is out.

I'm pretty sure I'm not in a minority that have more than a hunch that those three clubs will be back battling for the title next season, despite the juvenile "LOL" reply to my opinion from Bluestevon.
 
It would be an excellent move for him no doubt about it. They may not be in the Champions league next season but players are not stupid they'll know they be in there sooner rather than later, most probably the season after next.

Bluestevon's claim that because clubs aren't in the CL next year that will affect the calibre of player they can sign is pretty daft. For starters money talks and the likes of United, City and Chelsea still have more than the rest despite TV deals.

All three of those clubs will also have managers that will be a drawer to top top players whether they're in CL or not.

And again despite the TV deals and the gap "closing", I'd bet those three clubs will still sit at the top of the money spent table before the summer is out.

I'm pretty sure I'm not in a minority that have more than a hunch that those three clubs will be back battling for the title next season, despite the juvenile "LOL" reply to my opinion from Bluestevon.

Nailed it mate. Players are attracted to teams with top drawer managers. Add to that, teams with financial clout. You need both, manager plus money. If you're missing one you're weeing in the wind. I feel we may end up in the same Creek as Liverpool. You know, the one without a paddle. Mediocre managers only attract players who need to be in a shop window. So we're no longer a sell to buy club, we've been promoted to a stepping stone club. Same outcome tho, with mediocre managers, we will always lose our best players. Having a top top manager is imperative to becoming a success. I think most of us agree that martinez is not a top top manager who can restore the glory days.
 

I'm so done with this.

We should've cashed in on Stones when we had that chance, too. Now that he's shown his true colors we're not going to get the same sort of massive offers.

How many clubs that splash monster cash are also way underperforming now? Ah right, most of 'em.

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I have great admiration and respect for Rom.If goes he goes.If he stays he stays.One thing is for certain though we failed to capitalise on having a striker like Rom in the team over the last two seasons.We couldn't muster a title/champions league or even a Europa league challenge.We were around 12th place this time last year and it's the same thing a year later.How many times has he ploughed a lone furrow up front on his own for example?We haven't really built the team around his talents imo.
 
I don't care if it's accurate or not, but nice to finally read something like this.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-chelsea-face-having-7643757

Manchester United and Chelsea face having Romelu Lukaku transfer bids of £50m-plus REJECTED by Everton
The defiant Toffees plan to use Farhad Moshiri's investment to keep their stars and negotiations aren't likely to even start without an offer well over that figure

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Will Everton be able to hang onto Lukaku without Champions League football for next season?
Chelsea and Manchester United will have to pay more than £50million to get Romelu Lukaku this summer - and Everton will fight to keep him even if they receive offers of that size.

The Goodison club have made it clear they want star striker Lukaku – who has plundered 25 goals this season – to stay, despite his recent conformation that he wants to play Champions League football.

The Toffees sit 12th in the table, 13 points off the top four but have significant money to spend in the summer after massive recent investment from new major shareholder Farhad Moshiri.

They have made clear they will use some of it to try to hang onto their top players.

In pictures — Everton beat Chelsea to reach the FA Cup semi-finals:



Farhad Moshiri vows to give Everton 'whatever he has'

It is likely to take a bid well in excess of £50m to even get the Toffees to come to the negotiating table – and only then after they have had talks with the 22-year-old over a much improved contract.

There is no shortage of interest in the free-scoring striker, though.

The player’s father Roger has indicated Chelsea — who first signed him from Anderlecht for £18m in 2011 — and Manchester United head the list of Premier League clubs to have been in touch, with Bayern Munich and Paris Saint-Germain are also in the hunt.



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Chelsea signed Lukaku in 2011, sold him two years ago — and he's now on their radar again


And with such a powerful line-up of clubs interested, it is likely any fee would smash through the £50m barrier for a player who cost £28m from Chelsea just 18 months ago.

Lukaku has been increasingly vocal about his desire to leave, telling the Daily Mirror a fortnight ago he was ready to step up to the “next level”, and that it was time for him to play Champions League football.

Read more: Everton legend says he survived cancer because he wasn't embarrassed to visit his GP

With Everton having no chance of reaching Europe’s elite competition next season that would suggest a move in the summer, but they will refuse to roll over without a fight.
 
Already see some of tomorrow's paper headlines after they rewrite this Mirror story. lol

SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT IN LUKAKU TRANSFER SAGA
MANCHESTER UNITED FACING BATTLE BEFORE THEY SIGN LUKAKU
LUKAKU WILL HAVE TO MAKE A TRANSFER REQUEST TO PUSH HIS TRANSFER

Great to see for once to see in media we are really determined to keep our best players tbh.
 
Seriously though, what does 'handing in a transfer request' even do? It doesn't change anything does it? If a club doesn't want to sell they won't. Does it just mean the player isn't entitled to any transfer percentage if they do that?
 

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