Romelu Lukaku

[Billysgingham.]

Is it okay to not want him back and to want somebody better than DCL?

Of course it is mate.You say how you feel, don't feel left out.

 

[nsno-chris]

Yep.... another striker who can't nail down a regular 90 minutes for a team that finished nowhere.

Spotting the trend yet?

Yes, that these so called “awful players” have a better goal scoring ratio than Bambi

 

[DanB90]

The fact that some of us still pine after this fraud, even after all his fundamental failures as a football player have been laid bare last year, is a source of great dismay to me

I don’t pine for him, I don’t even reckon he’d suit the way we want to try and play.

But to suggest DCL has done anywhere near as much as Lukaku did in his time here is complete lunacy.

And I actually rate DCL.

 

[tommytowne]

I don’t pine for him, I don’t even reckon he’d suit the way we want to try and play.

But to suggest DCL has done anywhere near as much as Lukaku did in his time here is complete lunacy.

And I actually rate DCL.

I'm thinking that this coming season will be his final chance to prove he is going to become the player many of us hope he can be.
I've got a theory that because he seems to shine with the England U21 side he thinks that buys him time with us. I like him as well for all his other attributes but he needs to find the back of the net on a more regular basis.

 

[Carlito]

What wage is he on? Google says £200k a week! On that he will not be coming back for a long old time unless United subsidise it.

Doesn't even get to a question over his ability or attitude or whatever, that wage prices us out of that straight away.

I thought it was more than that, behind only Pogba and Sanchez.

Even those who genuinely rate him would surely look at Everton's league positions before, during and after his time here, and conclude that he isn't someone worth smashing the wage structure for.

 

[pedro1976]

I don’t pine for him, I don’t even reckon he’d suit the way we want to try and play.

But to suggest DCL has done anywhere near as much as Lukaku done in his time here is complete lunacy.

And I actually rate DCL.

That's the actual thing..... no one is saying DCL has scored more or will score as much.

What is quite clear is that if he develops in front of goal the way in which he has developed all the other elements of his game - then you are talking about a serious serious footballer. As the rest of his game is on point to being that of a very effective number 9.

That is the thing..... the excitable gif using bedwetters can't seem to get their head around. He is work in progress but that work In progress is on a trend line pointing upwards.

Goals breed confidence and confidence breeds composure. He will be no doubt working on all aspects of finishing in the way that Kane did - repetition of certain shots at certain situations... the likes of Robbie Fowler didn't need that. Thierry Henry did, Harry Kane did, Drogba did.

Its a case of wait and see but at the moment he is giving huge benefit to the attacking mids with his hold up play and space creation.

 

[DanB90]

That's the actual thing..... no one is saying DCL has scored more or will score as much.

What is quite clear is that if he develops in front of goal the way in which he has developed all the other elements of his game - then you are talking about a serious serious footballer. As the rest of his game is on point to being that of a very effective number 9.

That is the thing..... the excitable gif using bedwetters can't seem to get their head around. He is work in progress but that work In progress is on a trend line pointing upwards.

Goals breed confidence and confidence breeds composure. He will be no doubt working on all aspects of finishing in the way that Kane did - repetition of certain shots at certain situations... the likes of Robbie Fowler didn't need that. Thierry Henry did, Harry Kane did, Drogba did.

Its a case of wait and see but at the moment he is giving huge benefit to the attacking mids with his hold up play and space creation.

Yes mate. And I sincerely hope he can produce the goods, but at the minute it’s all “if’s and’s and but’s”
What I’m saying is:

Lukaku’s time at Everton > DCL’s time at Everton (so far)

And it isn’t even close.

Again, and I can’t stress this enough: I’m not rimming Lukaku, or slating DCL. I have no agenda whatsoever.

 

[Tubey]

Yes mate. And I sincerely hope he can produce the goods, but at the minute it’s all “if’s and’s and but’s”
What I’m saying is:

Lukaku’s time at Everton > DCL’s time at Everton (so far)

And it isn’t even close.

Again, and I can’t stress this enough: I’m not rimming Lukaku, or slating DCL. I have no agenda whatsoever.

I agree with that, but they're totally different strikers who will develop at different rates.

Lukaku was an explosive counter-attacking phenomenon who made an instant impact then got found out.

DCL is an all-rounder who made little to no impact but is visibly improving game on game.

For what we're doing - press hard, hold a ball up, get the attack involved in a variety of ways - I'd rather have DCL here than Lukaku leading the line by a country mile, because there's a glass ceiling on what you can achieve with a Lukaku, whilst there isn't one on what you can achieve with DCL - IF he continues to progress.

 

[pedro1976]

I thought it was more than that, behind only Pogba and Sanchez.

Even those who genuinely rate him would surely look at Everton's league positions before, during and after his time here, and conclude that he isn't someone worth smashing the wage structure for.

What I don't buy is that Lukaku "is a game changer".... certainly not in big games or at crucial stages of games.

Give him a one on one at 1 or 2 nil up and he rounds the keeper.... give him a cross fired across the 6 yard box at 0-0 in the 80th minute and it's over the bar.

United fans have picked up on this.

Yes mate. And I sincerely hope he can produce the goods, but at the minute it’s all “if’s and’s and but’s”
What I’m saying is:

Lukaku’s time at Everton > DCL’s time at Everton (so far)

And it isn’t even close.

Again, and I can’t stress this enough: I’m not rimming Lukaku, or slating DCL. I have no agenda whatsoever.

I seen the lukaku stint as a false economy. Yes he scored a decent number of goals 2 out of 3 seasons.... but the team dynamic was awful in order to accommodate him. We got snotted on the counter attack so often as a result of him not being able to hold on to the ball. Players never truly committed forward

Watch United with him.. it's the same. They can't sustain attacks or involve him with them. He lets centre halves stroll out with the ball.

From a team dynamic he's awful. Compare the commitment that players showed when Baines and Pienaar shifted up the pitch.... 100% confidence that the ball would be retained and passed. As soon as the ball got to lukaku you had the likes of Gareth Barry looking to plug the counter attack options...

 

[Carlito]

What I don't buy is that Lukaku "is a game changer".... certainly not in big games or at crucial stages of games.

Give him a one on one at 1 or 2 nil up and he rounds the keeper.... give him a cross fired across the 6 yard box at 0-0 in the 80th minute and it's over the bar.

United fans have picked up on this.

To be honest, I think most people see him for what he is now. He got a free ride at Everton, but he's going to struggle to find a similar environment without taking a massive hit on his wages.

 

[Tubey]

From a team dynamic he's awful. Compare the commitment that players showed when Baines and Pienaar shifted up the pitch.... 100% confidence that the ball would be retained and passed. As soon as the ball got to lukaku you had the likes of Gareth Barry looking to plug the counter attack options...

Exactly this, and this is what people really don't understand - the impact having such a limited player in the team has on the players around him. Instinctively the midfielder doesn't break forward to join a speculative attack as he knows he'll be caught on the counter and the odds aren't in his favour.

 

[Black Belt Jones]

That's the actual thing..... no one is saying DCL has scored more or will score as much.

What is quite clear is that if he develops in front of goal the way in which he has developed all the other elements of his game - then you are talking about a serious serious footballer. As the rest of his game is on point to being that of a very effective number 9.

That is the thing..... the excitable gif using bedwetters can't seem to get their head around. He is work in progress but that work In progress is on a trend line pointing upwards.

Goals breed confidence and confidence breeds composure. He will be no doubt working on all aspects of finishing in the way that Kane did - repetition of certain shots at certain situations... the likes of Robbie Fowler didn't need that. Thierry Henry did, Harry Kane did, Drogba did.

Its a case of wait and see but at the moment he is giving huge benefit to the attacking mids with his hold up play and space creation.

Perhaps it is better for some players to develop as a striker at a lower level and score a lot of goals - like Jamie Vardy, say, and then move up. Like you say, you bulge the net on the reg it builds confidence and self-belief. DCL hasn't ever scored much and it's a tough trade to learn in the prem.
Obv he's too young to write off and had some strong games this season - He might hit that inflexion point next season like Harry Kane did, and just massively step it up. Reckon most would figure that a long shot but it's not crazy to think it could happen.

 

[Prevenger17]

Is it okay to not want him back and to want somebody better than DCL?

Get the hell out

 

[Baines' left foot]

I’m amazed that people can voluntarily have the same conversations over and over again.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Bless ya. If only he was as fearsome as he looked eh...

The reality was that he used to get put in the back pocket of centre halves like paddy mcnair.

Despite scoring 15+ goals every season he was here?

We dont want goals at Everton we want lots of running around like Bambi and Naismith and Count Strac - proper Everton forwards.