Ronald Koeman discussion

[blueboy1945]

Both Koeman and Moshiri agreed it would be three years before realistically his plans/their ambitions would bare fruit - the progression being improvement in squad/league position year 1, continued squad improvement/EL qualification year 2, viable contenders for CL qualification year 3.

Clearly if he is nowhere near targets by the end of year 2, then there should be a question mark over his suitability for a third year in the project.

I've heard nothing that suggests any different to date.

I can't believe that Moshiri would expect us to be in a position to be viable contenders for the CL in just 3 years with the quality of the teams currently fighting for those spots! More like 5 to 7 years to get to those exalted positions AND make a decent fist of it @The Esk .

 

[kenada_blue]

The thing with the Barkley dropping I don't understand is that we hardly have an adequate replacement.

Best player vs West Ham, arguably vs Swansea. One quiet game in a poor team performance vs Southampton and he is out for Cleverly/McCarthy both of who stunk the place out.

If you don't trust him in midfield then play him as part of the front three - much more of a goal threat than anyone bar Lukaku.

Yep

Clear indication hes not "right" for his tactics

 

[mutley]

Yep

Clear indication hes not "right" for his tactics

Ronny's got tactics ?

 

[LinekersLegs]

“They got three goals and if you analyse them it’s not about football. The first is a long ball from the centre-back, a fight, a header, second ball, cross and goal. That’s difficult for us, that type of football. I understood the coach of Watford thought his team played like Barcelona on Saturday but I totally disagree. If you analyse the game, in my opinion, that’s why we struggle..”

Not quite sure I buy that Watford were playing route one football and that is why we struggled.

But even if it is true we are about to face the polar opposite style of play in Arsenal, guess we will soon find out whether we struggle with that type of football or not.

 

[ijjysmith]

Not a fan of the media being all over Koeman's bad run like a rash when it took them a season and a half to cotton onto the previous managers poor ways.

But ok. It is what it is. We are crap.

 

[Frank Gallagher]

Not a fan of the media being all over Koeman's bad run like a rash when it took them a season and a half to cotton onto the previous managers poor ways.

But ok. It is what it is. We are crap.

* dips chip in to huge bucket of mayo

 

[ijjysmith]

* dips chip in to huge bucket of mayo

That's essentially what I hear from him in every after match interview these days.

Lots of 'But ok' ing. And saying the players are crap (which they are) without actually saying it.

That's football.

 

[mkrudden]

Not a fan of the media being all over Koeman's bad run like a rash when it took them a season and a half to cotton onto the previous managers poor ways.

But ok. It is what it is. We are crap.

This cracks me up everytime lol

 

[Frank Gallagher]

That's essentially what I hear from him in every after match interview these days.

Lots of 'But ok' ing. And saying the players are crap (which they are) without actually saying it.

That's football.

he;s bang on the mooolar!

sort it aarrrrrrrrrrrrrrt ronny dawg

 

[Joey66]

Where we crap early season?

 

[ijjysmith]

Where we crap early season?

Yes and also no.

 

[collymcd]

The thing with the Barkley dropping I don't understand is that we hardly have an adequate replacement.

Best player vs West Ham, arguably vs Swansea. One quiet game in a poor team performance vs Southampton and he is out for Cleverly/McCarthy both of who stunk the place out.

If you don't trust him in midfield then play him as part of the front three - much more of a goal threat than anyone bar Lukaku.

I'm of the opinion that dropping Barkley at the moment is part of mentally coaching him. I think Koeman is sending a clear message to Barkley about the work required to be at the top of the game. Koeman even referenced a similar period of time he went through as a footballer. Sure, he could play in the mean time and improve the team but I think we're doing without in the short run for hopefully a greater gain in the future.

 

[Khalekan]

Where we crap early season?

As many have already pointed out, we peaked in the first half versus Spurs.

We won the four subsequent games playing in fits and starts and eventually results started matching performances.

We still play in fits and starts but without the wins now

 

[Tony Hibbert's 3rd leg]

Totally not going to happen, I know.

But just wondering what everyone's opinion of Koeman would be if we somehow managed to beat Arsenal and Liverpool, or pick up 4 points from 6.

 

[ianefc]

Totally not going to happen, I know.

But just wondering what everyone's opinion of Koeman would be if we somehow managed to beat Arsenal and Liverpool, or pick up 4 points from 6.

This entire forum would be joyous. 3 points tonight is one thing but a derby day win going into Christmas Day and then the best footballing day of the year. It'd be wonderful.