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Nice to see you back dave
Koeman is taking over a team that finished 11th twice, he also has to break a top 4 that makes on average 150m more revenue each season, its not going to be done overnight.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I'd never deny the two maulings against Liverpool under Martinez weren't embarrassing. That doesn't make the surrender monkey nature of that last defeat under Koeman any less embarrassing though.
Koeman needs to show an awful lot more than we've seen so far. Does he have time? Of course. But being in a mediocre position in a rubbish league playing muck doesn't count as a great start, IMO.
hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
Because it takes time to build his squad and getting rid of the deadwoods. If the board do provide money for him, of course he has to break the glass ceiling. But the foremost criteria is back him and let him sign his players.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I dont know what that means.
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
still prefer the way martinez played last season over the way Leicester did last season Dave?
TBF @davek only mentioned our good pointslol
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Fraud's dont get club points record totals.
As things stand Koeman wont get near that. Ever.
Blues Harp
Player Valuation: £60m
.......Uhhh the dalek's been wheeled out of the shed again... lol
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
thats not quite true though is it Dave, in fact you have to go back a whole season to find a team finishing 5th with 72 points in spurs before we did
CahillsCornerFlag
Player Valuation: £70m
Ronald has come in at a very tough time, completely cold with no grace period like Klopp had to test out all his players. That's what he's been doing this season up until now, deciding who he thinks is good enough and who isn't, and he's given almost all of them a fair crack of the whip to prove themselves. He's also given them the chance to prove they can play passing football, they clearly aren't up to it yet, hence the back to basics stuff we've seen up until this point. That'll change after a couple more transfer windows.
Given how the board ballsed up summer it has made his job even harder, but him and Walsh have had time to assess targets now, primarily for the summer id imagine, and the next two windows will see him mould his own squad, get rid of Moyes' remaining surrender monkeys and Martinez's absolute no hopers, of which there are plenty.
The top 6 are exactly where you'd expect them to be given what they've spent and the solid basis they all had, and yet he's got us best of the rest so far. It's not been pretty but it's proving effective, I think he's doing a fine job so far.
Given how the board ballsed up summer it has made his job even harder, but him and Walsh have had time to assess targets now, primarily for the summer id imagine, and the next two windows will see him mould his own squad, get rid of Moyes' remaining surrender monkeys and Martinez's absolute no hopers, of which there are plenty.
The top 6 are exactly where you'd expect them to be given what they've spent and the solid basis they all had, and yet he's got us best of the rest so far. It's not been pretty but it's proving effective, I think he's doing a fine job so far.
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Remember the 0-0 when it was only luck that saw Ibe denied a winner mate, that performance was far inferior to the last derby,
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
My question is simple on that score:
If Moyes first season in charge got us in the top 5 for most of the season and then falling away to 7th...with a really tripe squad;
and if Martinez came in first season and had us 5th playing in a manner that we all found a joy to watch....why are we excusing Koeman in his first season?
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