Ronald Koeman discussion

[Khalekan]

It was a free header from 7 yards and he was grinning about it though. Not for me.


As for Koeman, as I said: what was the Mirallas sub in aid of? Anyone?

Beats me.

My first thought was "How Moysie is that?"

 

[Saint Domingo]

Lukaku would, a confident Barkley would, Coleman would be close, gueye yeah. Centre backs no chance, nor keeper. But my point stands if koemen was getting the best out of his players then I do think we are close to teams like spurs. He's not getting the best out of anyone though. That's fundamentally what his role is, I don't get the excuse of its not his squad. If he can't manage the squad then what kind of manager is he? He should be able to extract better performances and results from what he's got, the players are perfectly capable of more than this. Yes some of the responsibility lies with the players but the manager needs to get things right from the off, putting out the best possible Everton 11 playing to our best formation.

Lukaku is still playing the majority of games with his back to goal. Barry still starting games! Cleverly on the wing for a good period of the season when he's got mirallas and delofeu on the bench. Now he starts mirallas and he looks a threat. He's not helping himself, same as Martinez wasn't. Completely different styles of management bit equally underperforming.

Spurs have pace power and application all through their squad. We have barely one of these attributes in a handful of players. On paper a few might get in but in reality they don't have the mentality to perform at the level that Spurs players are. Some of them have shown this across three different managers now.

 

[tadao]

That cross tonight (and let's face it, that is all he did of worth) was into the mix around the penalty spot, it wasn't a laser guided missile onto the head of Barkley.

Coleman put a better quality ball in for Lewin.

Watch it again, Baines had about 10mins to cross the ball.

 

[suey_11]

Up to Mr Koeman now he's seen what he has available and can see better than us that as a group they are clueless and spineless at times.

Time for a few of them to be offloaded.

 

[mmmmsnouts]

As for Koeman, as I said: what was the Mirallas sub in aid of? Anyone?

1. The only way Hull was winning that was on a set piece since they already scored twice that way. Extra defensive body in the mix to help out. Also let the fullbacks attack more.

2. Probably thinking of the match on Monday and the FA Cup next weekend. We all know Deulofeu will be blowing by halftime and will need replacing. Bolasie's crocked and Cleverley is crap so who comes on? Has to be Mirallas.

And unfortunately we drew proper competition to start the FA Cup, we didn't get someone like Rochdale that our U23's could turn over while the regular players rest. This is probably our only route to European football next year so we have to go all out every round. We'll need Kev there too.

 

[streeky]

God, Koeman is getting ripped to shreds on social media tonight, quite right too.

 

[davek]

Watch it again, Baines had about 10mins to cross the ball.

He did, and it was into the mixer. Barkley was covered by two Hull players and it was never one that was meant as a pinpoint cross for him. Don't get me wrong: decent cross, just not one worth going into raptures over. I'm actually amazed these days when Baines beats the first defender with a cross.

 

[Goat]

"Corrects things". There was ONE THING he needed to correct: the shape and organisation of the back four. That was it - just that. The rest was working.

He comes in and the back four are even more clueless and lacking in mobility.

No david.

2 years of regression.

 

[DerbyshireAndHarper]

It was a free header from 7 yards and he was grinning about it though. Not for me.


As for Koeman, as I said: what was the Mirallas sub in aid of? Anyone?

He's a kid delighted to be getting game time!

Do you know who's 'not for me'? Seasoned pros making awful mistakes like Jagielka, people like Barry who are finished, Lukaku who had another game where he went missing, Valencia who did absolutely nothing, and Robles who couldn't keep a clean sheet in a monastery.

Still, lets pick on a 21 year old kid who came on as a sub and decide he's somehow 'not good enough' because he grinned after missing a chance.

 

[Wat Tyler]

1. The only way Hull was winning that was on a set piece since they already scored twice that way. Extra defensive body in the mix to help out. Also let the fullbacks attack more.

2. Probably thinking of the match on Monday and the FA Cup next weekend. We all know Deulofeu will be blowing by halftime and will need replacing. Bolasie's crocked and Cleverley is crap so who comes on? Has to be Mirallas.

And unfortunately we drew proper competition to start the FA Cup, we didn't get someone like Rochdale that our U23's could turn over while the regular players rest. This is probably our only route to European football next year so we have to go all out every round. We'll need Kev there too.

Ranieri will play a b team against us, he has other troubles.

Mirallas was having a good game for once, reverting to a new formation with 3 minutes to go was stupid, there was no need we were in the ascendancy

 

[suey_11]

Spurs have pace power and application all through their squad. We have barely one of these attributes in a handful of players. On paper a few might get in but in reality they don't have the mentality to perform at the level that Spurs players are. Some of them have shown this across three different managers now.

mentality

Agreed I believe that if Koeman had taken over after Moyes he'd be happier with the squad.
Martinez may have been to pandering and over a couple of seasons it has seen us mentally weak.

 

[gorgeousgeorgeEFC]

A mate of mine went to the game up in Hull and he said that he saw Koeman silently weeping on the coach.

He feels it as much as we do.

 

[davek]

No david.

2 years of regression.

The same players that got us a record PL points total are all still there, but laughing boy can't get a tune out of them and has them hoofing it into the sky.

 

[DerbyshireAndHarper]

You do understand players age mate

He doesn't mate, we've been through this before. He thinks the players should magically be playing exactly the same as they did 3-4 years ago. Players never age or get worse in davek's world, and any decline is purely down to how they're managed.

 

[davek]

A mate of mine went to the game up in Hull and he said that he saw Koeman silently weeping on the coach.

He feels it as much as we do.

Someone rob his golf clubs?