Ronald Koeman discussion

davek · December 30, 2016

Prevenger17 said:
I'm still holding out hope that Koeman only did that because he sees what a useless box of crayons Lukaku is.

He'll have the best Everton striker for a couple of generations out the door and some Johann van Nomark in from AZ Alkmaar to replace him.

Lowste · December 30, 2016

davek said:
What's the point of quoting all that?

Am I wrong in what I say? No.

The point is, you may need to get a restraining order in place
Sleep with one eye open my friend

Prevenger17 · December 30, 2016

davek said:
He'll have the best Everton striker for a couple of generations out the door and some Johann van Nomark in from AZ Alkmaar to replace him.

We fundamentally disagree on Lukaku I see. Martinez never should have brought him in, it was his biggest mistake

Dirty Dutch · December 30, 2016

davek said:
Yeah, I noticed that when he told our star player he should aim higher than us. Proper gets it.

He should.

davek · December 30, 2016

DrEFC said:
So no blame on the players who cannot complete simple passes? This year we are mediocre, last year- a laughing stock.

He seemed to like them when we got off to a five game unbeaten run.

These players are easily better than this. He was supposed to come in and get it out of them when Martinez could no longer do so. That's going well like.

Goat · December 30, 2016

davek said:
He seemed to like them when we got off to a five game unbeaten run.

These players are easily better than this. He was supposed to come in and get it out of them when Martinez could no longer do so. That's going well like.

Well to use your phrase, hes got a better "tune" out of them than Martinez did.

davek · December 30, 2016

Prevenger17 said:
We fundamentally disagree on Lukaku I see. Martinez never should have brought him in, it was his biggest mistake

Lol. Yeah, he's been a disaster.

Dirty Dutch · December 30, 2016

davek said:
Horrific my arse. Back four has three national captains in it and we are studded with international talent all over the pitch.

Why are you making excuses for this feller? Three wins since September 17th.

It's down to his lack of motivation and organisation. We have never once put 90 minutes in...NOT ONCE.

these are no excuses its reality. Something you really don't wanna see. The amount of bullshit you're talking is almost hilarious.

DrEFC · December 30, 2016

davek said:
He seemed to like them when we got off to a five game unbeaten run.

These players are easily better than this. He was supposed to come in and get it out of them when Martinez could no longer do so. That's going well like.

He's still doing better than fraudinez. Let him get players that can play his more pacey robust style, if we are still midtable dog turd, I'll be happy he's sacked 12-18months. I certainly won't defend him 3 years in with the worst win ratios, worst home record & biggest derby humiliations in living memory.

Black Belt Jones · December 30, 2016

Prevenger17 said:
We fundamentally disagree on Lukaku I see. Martinez never should have brought him in, it was his biggest mistake

It's close between that and his signing of Niasse, to be fair.

Signing one of the most prolific goalscorers of his generation, in world football, versus signing a taxi driver from Senegal who allegedly played in the Russian league, for 13 million, and on a contract worth tens of thousands per week.
Hard to split them really.

davek · December 30, 2016

MoutsGoat said:
Well to use your phrase, hes got a better "tune" out of them than Martinez did.

Must have missed that mate. All I've seen so far is boot and run tosh.

Tell me I'm wrong.

gonetomorrow · December 30, 2016

When I watch Koeman 's Everton it's like he's playing with another kid's trainset. There's no set plan laid down and changes get made ad hoc or as the situation demands.

Once he gets his own team out there we should see a system developing.

Flipping hope so, anyway.

davek · December 30, 2016

Dirty Dutch said:
these are no excuses its reality. Something you really don't wanna see. The amount of bullshit you're talking is almost hilarious.

Keep telling yourself we're playing schilky fussball mate. Even though everyone else sees us punting hopeful 70 yard "passes" downfield in lieu of an attacking game worthy of top flight football.

Every time we play a live televised game I cringe knowing that a global audience sees us playing in such a humiliatingly basic manner.

Saint Domingo · December 30, 2016

davek said:
Doesn't negate my point though. The players here were here when we got 5th and 72 points. How anyone can give this feller a free pass on the squad strength is beyond me. He is just incapable of getting them playing. Simple as that. Dont give a man being paid £6m per year that sort of excuse. He doesn't deserve it.

I'm not. Successive managers have so far failed to replace the creative talents of Moyes' team. Arteta Pienaar Osman Cahill, all very very good midfielders who have left the squad without replacement. Headless chicken wingers and crab midfielders have followed but no creativity at all. If Koeman doesn't rectify this he'll go the same way as Martinez.