Ronald Koeman discussion

[B17BLG]

I thought this Koeman out movement was a joke and a wind up. But I'm seeing more and more people saying they want him gone?

Is it maybe he's not talking about Everton and the vision he has for this great club like others have in the past? Whilst we can all see its rubbish, we might want to hear certain things coming from the manager that instills confidence and a picture of togetherness.

He needs time, but he can buy extra time himself by keeping the fans on board and just saying and displaying a few things that Everton supporters would expect.

How long till we see a banner *cringe

 

[ExpatinBangkok]

I'm a big fan of koemans, but his decision to bring on a defender for an attacker when we are 2-2 with a bottom of the table team was horrendous. Absolutely no desire to go for the win.

 

[bicycleheader]

ive just got back and thought we did ok, enjoyed the game, some of the crying all over the internet when we dont win is embarrassing, We dont have a god given right to win every game and its going to take time. my own expectations were too high from the moment Moshiri arrived largely because of listening to rubbish spouted by people like Esk. realistically we are miles away from the 6 teams above us and i dont see that changing. enjoy the odd win don't get too hysterical when we lose and just go the match,we are where we probably should be in the league and it unlikely to get much better.

you need to put an @ before the posters name Tirion. You'd think you'd know this by now considering you mention @The Esk in every second post.

 

[deipnosophist]

I thought this Koeman out movement was a joke and a wind up. But I'm seeing more and more people saying they want him gone?
How long till we see a banner *cringe

DT and Troopz are threatening a banner at the Emirates. They've had enuff blud, they've had enuff fam

 

[bicycleheader]

Your enjoying every second of all this. Every single defeat you crawl out of the woodwork and revel in everyone's misery. Yet after wins your very rarely seen. Kopites enjoy our defeats less then you do. I used to think you were just a WUM but now I'm half convinced your simply a GOT creation designed to have us all fuming at your idiocy and hypocrisy. It's either that or your a symbol of everything that is wrong with are current fan base who enjoy the fume of defeat way more then the thrill of victory.

Interesting.

Whom do you think the GOT overlord is that is behind the creation of Davek?

 

[bilyaletdinov_]

I genuinely can't see the problem with him bringing on Funes Mori for Mirallas, we pushed Coleman and Baines further up the pitch with the former almost setting up the winner through DCL. What is worrying is the slow tempo throughout the game, and lack of cutting edge. Hopefully this will be addressed in January!

 

[bicycleheader]

I'm a big fan of koemans, but his decision to bring on a defender for an attacker when we are 2-2 with a bottom of the table team was horrendous. Absolutely no desire to go for the win.

I'm amazed that the reason for the sub was not blindingly obvious to be honest.

It was to change formation and get the full backs pushed right up. A sub of attacker for defender is not always negative and it certainly wasn't to hold on for a point as some are suggesting.

We did feck all with the change because we played crap, but it was still a change to get us more support in attack from the wings.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Interesting.

Whom do you think the GOT overlord is that is behind the creation of Davek?

Who said anything about an overload? I simply wonder if some members have decided to create the the persona of Davek to wind people up. It seems to work, thread's go crazy once he starts spouting his hypocritical nonsense like clockwork. In any event I'm still sure he's just a WUM and the garbage he writes on here isn't his real opinions. Just what he says to get reactions.

 

[bicycleheader]

Who said anything about an overload? I simply wonder if some members have decided to create the the persona of Davek to wind people up. It seems to work, thread's go crazy once he starts spouting his hypocritical nonsense like clockwork. In any event I'm still sure he's just a WUM and the garbage he writes on here isn't his real opinions. Just what he says to get reactions.

I find more tiresome the posters who drag davek into the same discussion over and over and seem to forget the last time they exchanged posts with him on the same topic.

For me his stance or stances are normally clear. He agrees the boss should be given time. He doesn't however feel that absolves him from being criticised in the meantime. He feels that his big wage means he should be under even more scrutiny than normal. He likes to make fun of the idea that Koeman was supposed to, and by some is percieved to have fixed the defense since Bobbys time as most seemed to think it should be easy.

On top of that, he definitely will go a bit overboard in his criticism of the new boss in reaction to those who he feels went overboard in putting the boot into the old boss and continue slating him at every turn.

There's plenty of decent points made amongst the agenda-driven wum type stuff by Davek.

 

[DrEFC]

The "fraud" nailed a record premier league season first time of asking. If we're talking about frauds I'll apply that term to Koeman until such a point as he proves himself an able manager for this club and has us playing footy on the deck with pace and combination play...oh, and winning...something this clown has managed only three times in three and a half months.

Jesus H christ you're a parody Dave. He got Southampton to their record points total (and the ultimate purpose is what?) and finished above us twice whilst the boss there, so who's the fraud?

Would you honestly still prefer Martinez in charge?
Would you prefer Moyes?

 

[DrEFC]

Oh great, the 72pt nostalgia files out again.

Koeman is here now. Let's focus on this manager.

Going well isn't it? Three wins in 15 games.

lol

 

[DrEFC]

It's so weird, it's almost as if he sets out the wrong team deliberately so his subs always look good..

My theory is that it is demonstrating to Moshiri that big buys necessary. Would be a bloody stupid way to do it.

 

[DrEFC]

I'm amazed that the reason for the sub was not blindingly obvious to be honest.

It was to change formation and get the full backs pushed right up. A sub of attacker for defender is not always negative and it certainly wasn't to hold on for a point as some are suggesting.

We did feck all with the change because we played crap, but it was still a change to get us more support in attack from the wings.

We did feck all as Rom forgot how to control a ball and lay it off. @Prevenger17 Counted about 3-4 moves that broke down in the last 10 because of it.
DCL missed a chance he should bury.

 

[hktoffee]

I wouldn't call Cahill creative mate. And Barry is far and away better in that respect than Osman. He also brought in Eto'o to play in behind Lukaku.

RM was only here 3 seasons, Moyes 11. I should expect Moyeswould have added more creative players than Martinez in that extra period of time...and he only just about managed that.

The fraud Martinez had 10 times net spend than Moyes. I honestly don't understand the love of RM from you unless you are Jones yourself...he is a clueless man who lives up by the crap he spouts and you are bought into his family and becoming a propaganda machine. RM was a proven failure and yet you keep banging on how good he is. History cannot be rewritten. Remember the horrendous records, 22 wins in 75 PL matches which caused his sacking.

 

[hktoffee]

Players that are capable of notching up 5th place and 21 wins in a season being hopelessly commanded by a clueless manager. That's the story of the season so far.

Laughable. These are the same group that are capable of notching up 11th and 12th, 22 wins in 2 seasons and you mentioned nothing on it. Instead you keep going back to his first season (3 years ago) everytime as the getting out card.