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Ronald Koeman discussion

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ianefc said:
I never said immensely. My point is clear, most people on this very forum were somewhere between dissatisfied to angry on the Summers transfer window (I wasn't but accept I was in the minority) yet with Martinez' squad and a 'disappointing' window he has bettered our last 20 league games by 9 points in his first 20 league games.
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Why didn't you think it was a disapointing window?
 
kenada_blue said:
Not hammering him. Was just pointing out the points tally to games compared to the two managers in different periods isn't a good example to say he's improved us immensely from last season.

We are better organised. If your team is like that in the last two seasons, you tend to do fine in this league. See West Brom currently
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So what did West Brom do today then ? Back to their normal ways I've heard
 
ianefc said:
Because I honestly felt we had improved the starting xi in 4 positions.

To this day I don't think another club in the league did that.
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Man Utd?

A wet sponge would have been an upgrade on Howard. The improvement at centre half and on the wing was negligible.
 
ianefc said:
I never said immensely. My point is clear, most people on this very forum were somewhere between dissatisfied to angry on the Summers transfer window (I wasn't but accept I was in the minority) yet with Martinez' squad and a 'disappointing' window he has bettered our last 20 league games by 9 points in his first 20 league games.
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And I agree with you especially as I'm in the even small minority in saying Koeman would get us 7th with Martinez's squad at the start of the season (go hit the vaults)
 

My 2p.

I feel comfortable that we have a competent manager. One who has his flaws, (who hasnt), but the laser like dissection of his every word to either prove or disprove a stance is not for me.

Said it from day one, he is a difficult bloke to warm to, but I am pretty relaxed with a bloke like him coaching, and managing EFC. The fact that Moshiri agrees with me by lobbing a few bob around, I also like.

If he upsets a few players? Meh. Grow up. It means the ones he plays knows he wants them to play. That makes a winning team.
 

roydo said:
My 2p.

I feel comfortable that we have a competent manager. One who has his flaws, (who hasnt), but the laser like dissection of his every word to either prove or disprove a stance is not for me.

Said it from day one, he is a difficult bloke to warm to, but I am pretty relaxed with a bloke like him coaching, and managing EFC. The fact that Moshiri agrees with me by lobbing a few bob around, I also like.

If he upsets a few players? Meh. Grow up. It means the ones he plays knows he wants them to play. That makes a winning team.
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Barkley has seem to take the criticism on board don't he
 
roydo said:
My 2p.

I feel comfortable that we have a competent manager. One who has his flaws, (who hasnt), but the laser like dissection of his every word to either prove or disprove a stance is not for me.

Said it from day one, he is a difficult bloke to warm to, but I am pretty relaxed with a bloke like him coaching, and managing EFC. The fact that Moshiri agrees with me by lobbing a few bob around, I also like.

If he upsets a few players? Meh. Grow up. It means the ones he plays knows he wants them to play. That makes a winning team.
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Exactly. It's the weakest of weak arguments to criticise him for (potentially) upsetting the players. If they were or are playing to the standard he expects he wouldn't criticise them? His rule is, perform to a level befitting our great club and fine, but fail him and Evertonians then expect a tounge lashing. I like that about him, despite being neutral on him.
 
ianefc said:
Yeah ok. Because finishing above Spurs and UTD is the same to Everton as finishing above the clubs you mention.[/QUOTE
The point is we finished 5thbecause we deserved it, we finished 11 th because we deserved it. Don't decry a finish that was well deserved, sounds very bitter and childish
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