Ronald Koeman discussion

[Southern Yankee toffee]

Also got Wigan relegated, as I said it's swings and roundabouts.

Wigan is worse than a yo-yo club. It was an anomaly that they were in the premier league, not that they were relegated. He kept them up on shoestrings and sexy football for 3 seasons.

 

[bazzer25]

comparing Koeman with Jose and Ferguson

hahaha I'm done

I wasn't comparing them, I was just mentioning managers who have criticised players like you asked, I'm sure there are others. Also Mourinho lost the dressing room by taking that chance at Chelsea.

 

[davek]

Because the gap between us and them has got wider while the gap between us and the rest has narrowed.

Doubt to many of the rest will have spent what Koeman is going to spend.

 

[Arnold]

I wasn't comparing them, I was just mentioning managers who have criticised players like you asked, I'm sure there are others. Also Mourinho lost the dressing room by taking that chance at Chelsea.

comparing two of the games best mangers with Koeman hahaha

 

[Southern Yankee toffee]

Eh?

we tied, got smoked at home and won at the death strokes on boxing day.

 

[bluestevon]

It's no secret he tore the Valencia dressing room apart. His time at Ajax before that was riven with a feud with LVG over the team. And his time at Southampton was mired with fall outs with Tadic, Mane and Ward Prowse. Since he's been here he's kicked off on Barkley and took the piss out of a member of the club who people seem to think deserved it for some reason when he acted like a big 'kin bully toward him (Niasse).

Let's not deny these facts. They are there and on the record.

As stated: never in a million years an Everton class manager. You have to be a man as well as a coach to be that.

You said every team as you statement mate, you mentioned 3, how many teams has he managed? Just the three is it now? Btw how is a disagreement with LVG proving any point, was he a player for him lol.

Awaiting your proof he fell out with players at feyenoord, az, benfica, Pac mate, otherwise simply say your orihlginal assertion of every club was in fact a mis truth

 

[mutley]

It's not.

Martinez took a Steve Bruce side and relegated th
Koeman took a Pochettino side and bettered them.

You've just picked one guys best point against another guys worst point

 

[bazzer25]

comparing two of the games best mangers with Koeman hahaha

I just said I was not comparing them I was giving you two premier league managers who have criticised players. oh dear

 

[Southern Yankee toffee]

You said every team as you statement mate, you mentioned 3, how many teams has he managed? Just the three is it now? Btw how is a disagreement with LVG proving any point, was he a player for him lol.

Awaiting your proof he fell out with players at feyenoord, az, benfica, Pac mate, otherwise simply say your orihlginal assertion of every club was in fact a mis truth

why was he only there a year at those clubs?

 

[Arnold]

I just said I was not comparing them I was giving you two premier league managers who have criticised players. oh dear

Just leave it now buddy you are making yourself look mental

 

[davek]

You said every team as you statement mate, you mentioned 3, how many teams has he managed? Just the three is it now? Btw how is a disagreement with LVG proving any point, was he a player for him lol.

Awaiting your proof he fell out with players at feyenoord, az, benfica, Pac mate, otherwise simply say your orihlginal assertion of every club was in fact a mis truth

Ha ha. FFS how many clubs more than four do you require before you accept the feller can cause murder in an empty house.

Are you actually disputing the fact he's known to cross swords with his own players?

Unreal if you are.

 

[balggy]

He can be aloof and still do a good job. Plenty of those around in football.

My stance is still this: results determine everything. It matters not one jot what I or anyone else thinks about his character. He'll stand or fall on his performance here. now you can't be judged a success or failure in season one, which is why I continue to view any argument that he should be sacked every time we lose a game as madness. He has that acquiescence. For now.

No one is arguing he should be sacked.

It's just you, constantly moaning about everything. Even positives, like new signings you view as a negative. After a win at Goodison your probably the only one walking out with a scowl.

Like I said in a previous thread, it's not good enough to just say, "I haven't called for him to be sacked yet."

Evertonians should be expected to actually "get behind" Koeman. You know, actually support him.

Anything less than that is very un Evertonian like and is probably why many find it difficult to take a once respected poster seriously.

 

[bazzer25]

Just leave it now buddy you are making yourself look mental

Er. Yeah ok.....

 

[Stan Lee Park]

Hold on, it was the orthodox thinking here until VERY recently...until Koeman couldn't handle them either. Funny that isn't it?

I didn't believe it and I'm sure you didn't.

 

[ianefc]

You've just picked one guys best point against another guys worst point

No. They're facts. Martinez took over Moyes' 6th place side and landed them 13th when we sacked him.