Ronald Koeman discussion

[Stan Lee Park]

Hold on, it was the orthodox thinking here until VERY recently...until Koeman couldn't handle them either. Funny that isn't it?

I didn't believe it and I'm sure you didn't.

 

[ianefc]

You've just picked one guys best point against another guys worst point

No. They're facts. Martinez took over Moyes' 6th place side and landed them 13th when we sacked him.

 

[ianefc]

That isn't much of an achievement though. Martinez was dreadful.

Very harsh.

 

[jinkyali]

Ha ha. FFS how many clubs more than four do you require before you accept the feller can cause murder in an empty house.

Are you actually disputing the fact he's known to cross swords with his own players?

Unreal if you are.

Who cares if he has fallen out with players?
Every manager does. Every player who isnt playing hates the manager.
Nothing point.

 

[ianefc]

That isn't much of an achievement though. Martinez was dreadful.

But bang on the money

As I predicted

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Ha ha. FFS how many clubs more than four do you require before you accept the feller can cause murder in an empty house.

Are you actually disputing the fact he's known to cross swords with his own players?

Unreal if you are.

Yeah he should spend all day blowing smoke up their skirts and telling the world how phenomenal they are after yet another dire display of half arsed nothingness, as that worked well.

Oh wait...

Give it up ffs. You backed a complete donkey of a manager to the death, more fool you, get over it.

 

[bluestevon]

Ha ha. FFS how many clubs more than four do you require before you accept the feller can cause murder in an empty house.

Are you actually disputing the fact he's known to cross swords with his own players?

Unreal if you are.

No mate I am simply pulling you up yet again on you stating something as fact.

This time he has fell out with players at every club he's managed, when actually he hasn't.

How many clubs do I require you to list was your question, well answer is mate, when you categorically state every club he's fallen out with players, then I expect you to be able to list every club.

You couldn't therefore your statements a lie.

 

[bluestevon]

why was he only there a year at those clubs?

He was at feyenoord for three years, he left psv cos he got offered the Valencia job, same with benfica when he got offered the psv job, he's a job hopper mate, always looking for the next best move career wise.

As frankly are most managers if they get the chance/offers.

 

[DrEFC]

can imagine the players throwing the towel in after Koeman's idiotic comments

I imagine we will drop down the league between now and may

Shut it football head

 

[Arnold]

Shut it football head

reported

 

[Furey1878]

Ok mate. Just dont complain when the wheels fall off the PL campaign by october.

We've gotta try, no good just getting in Europe once every 5 years.

Agree with you on Gylfi, should be a no brainier for us.

 

[DrEFC]

reported

Friggin hells bells- are you Derek Acorah?

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Friggin hells bells- are you Derek Acorah?

You don't mean a kopite!

























Joke by the way! incase Derek reports me.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

in Davek defense, we did have the highest point accumulation ever under Roberto, progressed far in the Europa the second year, and made it two 2 semis in year 3.

Let's address all these none achievements one at a time shall we:

1) The points total is completely irrelevant and always has been. It's were you finish that counts. We finished fifth a few times under David Moyes and it was as irrelevant then as it is now. Moyes finishing fourth was far the more impressive season, it's simple logic. Would you take second with 87 points over first with 79? Of course you wouldn't! The whole argument is nonsense. This is a total non achievement full stop.

2) So what if we did well in the Europa League and had a nice little run, it amounted to nothing! The run in 07-08 under Moyes was far better and still achieved nothing. If it wasn't for an awful first leg in Florentinena (only bad performance we had that whole run) we'd probably of gone all the way. The second leg at Goodison made me proud of the lads for their efforts even if we lost. Our eventual exit under Martinez left me completely embarrassed and was a disgraceful showing.

3) Ah the old two semi finals line! When are people going to finally understand that semi-finals isn't an achievement of any kind?! We aren't Millwall and reaching a semi-final isn't something to be proud of at this club. In any event we crashed and burned in both semi-finals in the normal Martinez style of total collapse.

Can we finally put this to bed that Martinez achieved absolutely nothing at this club other then failure despite what his acolytes would have you believe. He deserved the sack the scorn he gets from most blues.

 

[PC Principal]

We've been dumped out of both cups in the 3rd round and went on a run of 1 win in 10 in the league. Our season is effectively over.

However Koeman hasn't had much to work with and does deserve a chance despite it shaping up to be a fairly forgettable season.