Ronald Koeman discussion

jinkyali · January 21, 2017

davek said:
Yeah, and if they keep this up it'll be a good dry run for next season. But that's all it is: a dry run. Everton finish 7th or a place above or below it - so what? It's meaningless.

So is bottling two semi finals mate.

davek · January 21, 2017

roydo said:
No its not.

Its enjoyable. Aint that important?

They're barely more important than preseason games to me. To be enjoyable really there has to be a spectacle, there has to be competition. Is that really there now that we can't win anything or come 4th? Not for me.

jinkyali · January 21, 2017

davek said:
It would be the worst of all possible outcomes. We need the EL next season like we need another securitisation deal.

So is it an acheivement?

Thuck ma Baws · January 21, 2017

AndyC said:
And how would it differ were we to make the top 4 and qualify for the CL ?

It would be exactly the same except for instead of winning midweek in Europe we'd be getting bummed all over the Bernabeu.

AaronTheBlue · January 21, 2017

D410 said:
We need another keeper.....I would go after Hennessey or Pickford then find a top CB, AM and LB...

Oh and David Unworth should be promoted to the 1st team in the summer ....our new Harvey!

don't let this peformance kid you, hennesy is absolutely turd.

As for pickford i'm not as convinced as others are. He is a good goalkeeper sure, but is he just looking better because of how many shots people are having at him, david marshall was the same.

for now joels the man.

AndyC · January 21, 2017

Thuck ma Baws said:
It would be exactly the same except for instead of winning midweek in Europe we'd be getting bummed all over the Bernabeu.

Oh ye of little faith

Connor · January 21, 2017

Thuck ma Baws said:
It would be exactly the same except for instead of winning midweek in Europe we'd be getting bummed all over the Bernabeu.

Ronald would have us winning 2-0 at the Bernabeu, we wouldn't give them a sniff.

davek · January 21, 2017

roydo said:
It was fun that campaign mind.

Fun and then it was used as a weapon by many to destroy the team and its manager. That competition comes with a big price tag in it.

davek · January 21, 2017

AndyC said:
And how would it differ were we to make the top 4 and qualify for the CL ?

Just from a financial point of view it'd be worth ballsing the next season up for in order to rake in that cash and exposure.

AndyC · January 21, 2017

Connor said:
Ronald would have us winning 2-0 at the Bernabeu, we wouldn't give them a sniff.

The Bernabeu, Camp Nou etc will be staggered by our support when we go to those places, it'll be unreal

davek · January 21, 2017

jinkyali said:
How on earth am I making your point for you?

Your making a fool out of yourself here. He has proven through his results that he is consistent at achieving a similar points total in each of his seasons managing in this league.

In his first season his team didnt move out of positions 5th to 7th (three places) for the final 23 games. The way you portray him would surely see a dip in position followed by a large movement up front in his 'up turn?' streak?

In his second season his team didnt move out of positions 6th to 8th (three places again) for the final 15 games. Again, consistent in my eyes.

I think what your trying to say is that he, like any manager, is susceptible to the odd run of poor form where his team dont get results. Its hardly a crime. Every manager does it. What Ronald seems to do, as the evidence suggests, is be able to stop the rot and bounce back.

The matter of fact is that he has proven he is very capable of getting top end finishes; much more than his predecessor and it is this which is giving Evertonians most satisfaction. They know were in safe hands in terms of the PL and Koeman is someone who is capable of putting a team out which will be hard to beat, will finish top end of the league and is a proven platform to kick on.

Pride comes before a fall fella.

I'm making the point that even with his best shot we can't make it to a CL spot under him. Simple as that.

Connor · January 21, 2017

AndyC said:
The Bernabeu, Camp Nou etc will be staggered by our support when we go to those places, it'll be unreal

What's the allocation like at Juventus? Gonna book it now.

AndyC · January 21, 2017

Connor said:
What's the allocation like at Juventus? Gonna book it now.

Who cares, we took loads more to Benfica than they gave us tickets for... and everyone got in

Amw79 · January 21, 2017

davek said:
Top 7 would be progress and adequate never mind 6th, I've already stated that. But it means nothing. And if we get 7th next season when a CL or top 5'pkace is a must then he's not performing.

Who says it's a must (apart from you, of course), is this the performance target the board have set him for next year?

I want to see Everton improve. if we finish 7th or 8th this year, that's improvement on last year. If we then went on to finish 6th next year - that's improvement again. I'd like us to get as high as possible, as quickly as possible, of course, but as long as we're improving, and not going backwards, I'm on board.