Ronald Koeman discussion

[Barnfred 55]

Yep, I joined a year ago and lurked on and off for a few years before that. I have always respected @davek 's opinion, just don't agree with him re RK... but ok that's football.

Trust we all want Everton to do well whoever's in charge.

Dave makes some great posts on here. However a lot of it goes mostly unnoticed because he's so outspoken regarding RK.

 

[PickeringBlue]

You can say what you want about Koeman, but I was noticing that they have more stats on the EPL site these days and being a complete stats nerd, tool a look at Everton's over the years to see if I could see a change in style from Moyes to Martinez to this year (most of the stats only start in 06/07). The one that stood out for me the most was "Errors leading to Goals"

07/08 - 4
08/09 - 4
09/10 - 5
10/11 - 6
11/12 - 5
12/13 - 7
13/14 - 6
14/15 - 15
15/16 - 10
16/17 - 2 (on pace for 3)

As reference over that period Man United have averaged 4 per year (min 2, max 6) while Arsenal have averaged 8 per year (min 5, max 14). RK's done something right.

 

[DrEFC]

You can say what you want about Koeman, but I was noticing that they have more stats on the EPL site these days and being a complete stats nerd, tool a look at Everton's over the years to see if I could see a change in style from Moyes to Martinez to this year (most of the stats only start in 06/07). The one that stood out for me the most was "Errors leading to Goals"

07/08 - 4
08/09 - 4
09/10 - 5
10/11 - 6
11/12 - 5
12/13 - 7
13/14 - 6
14/15 - 15
15/16 - 10
16/17 - 2 (on pace for 3)

As reference over that period Man United have averaged 4 per year (min 2, max 6) while Arsenal have averaged 8 per year (min 5, max 14). RK's done something right.

The last two seasons is absolutely atrocious!

 

[roydo]

14/15 - 15
15/16 - 10

lol

 

[MikeH72]

lol

Crying at that.

 

[MikeH72]

The last two seasons is absolutely atrocious!

Reckon Tim Howard accounted for 20 of them on his own.

 

[DrEFC]

Reckon Tim Howard accounted for 20 of them on his own.

Stuuurnsey, Alcaraz say otherwise.

 

[The Rhino]

Dave makes some great posts on here. However a lot of it goes mostly unnoticed because he's so outspoken regarding RK.

There's a difference between being outspoken and being a wind up.

 

[ianefc]

You can say what you want about Koeman, but I was noticing that they have more stats on the EPL site these days and being a complete stats nerd, tool a look at Everton's over the years to see if I could see a change in style from Moyes to Martinez to this year (most of the stats only start in 06/07). The one that stood out for me the most was "Errors leading to Goals"

07/08 - 4
08/09 - 4
09/10 - 5
10/11 - 6
11/12 - 5
12/13 - 7
13/14 - 6
14/15 - 15
15/16 - 10
16/17 - 2 (on pace for 3)

As reference over that period Man United have averaged 4 per year (min 2, max 6) while Arsenal have averaged 8 per year (min 5, max 14). RK's done something right.

Proper manager makes those stats no coincidence. Just a proper mentality.

 

[kev]

You can say what you want about Koeman, but I was noticing that they have more stats on the EPL site these days and being a complete stats nerd, tool a look at Everton's over the years to see if I could see a change in style from Moyes to Martinez to this year (most of the stats only start in 06/07). The one that stood out for me the most was "Errors leading to Goals"

07/08 - 4
08/09 - 4
09/10 - 5
10/11 - 6
11/12 - 5
12/13 - 7
13/14 - 6
14/15 - 15
15/16 - 10
16/17 - 2 (on pace for 3)

As reference over that period Man United have averaged 4 per year (min 2, max 6) while Arsenal have averaged 8 per year (min 5, max 14). RK's done something right.

John Stones though lads £50M was it?

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

You can say what you want about Koeman, but I was noticing that they have more stats on the EPL site these days and being a complete stats nerd, tool a look at Everton's over the years to see if I could see a change in style from Moyes to Martinez to this year (most of the stats only start in 06/07). The one that stood out for me the most was "Errors leading to Goals"

07/08 - 4
08/09 - 4
09/10 - 5
10/11 - 6
11/12 - 5
12/13 - 7
13/14 - 6
14/15 - 15
15/16 - 10
16/17 - 2 (on pace for 3)

As reference over that period Man United have averaged 4 per year (min 2, max 6) while Arsenal have averaged 8 per year (min 5, max 14). RK's done something right.

My word!

 

[JLW]

Reckon Tim Howard accounted for 20 of them on his own.

I hated every minute he played for us! Even in his earlier days

 

[ianefc]

John Stones though lads £50M was it?

I still wish we had him.

 

[Barnfred 55]

There's a difference between being outspoken and being a wind up.

The point I'm making still stands though mate. Amidst the Koeman diatribe, Dave does occasionally post threads with very valid and insightful messages, that invariably go unnoticed because everyone's too busy battling with him.

I'm not defending him. Just stating is at I see it.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

1st time in 20 years I have felt really positive about our future. Koeman is one of the main reasons for that.

Not been an away game all season.... since boxing day at Leicester, I've been to every one....

Can't wait for Boro on Saturday now.