Ronald Koeman discussion

[4737carlin]

You can say what you want about Koeman, but I was noticing that they have more stats on the EPL site these days and being a complete stats nerd, tool a look at Everton's over the years to see if I could see a change in style from Moyes to Martinez to this year (most of the stats only start in 06/07). The one that stood out for me the most was "Errors leading to Goals"

07/08 - 4
08/09 - 4
09/10 - 5
10/11 - 6
11/12 - 5
12/13 - 7
13/14 - 6
14/15 - 15
15/16 - 10
16/17 - 2 (on pace for 3)

As reference over that period Man United have averaged 4 per year (min 2, max 6) while Arsenal have averaged 8 per year (min 5, max 14). RK's done something right.

Wow that's crazy, wonder what the 2 was?

 

[JLW]

I still wish we had him.

Koeman would of taught him how defend properly, he may regret not having a year or two with koeman as his mentor..

 

[ianefc]

Koeman would of taught him how defend properly, he may regret not having a year or two with koeman as his mentor..

With that regard, Koeman would've been better for him than Guardiola.

 

[4737carlin]

Crikey. It's not what you know but who you know hey?

That's impressive.

I was reading a 'Everton aren't we' tweet the other day and they were saying they've not known demand for aways like it is at the moment for a long long time.

There is, saying that plenty of games went to general last season so tough on those who showed no interest when we're we terrible, there missing out now and forever more

 

[ianefc]

There is, saying that plenty of games went to general last season so tough on those who showed no interest when we're we terrible, there missing out now and forever more

Yep, I just hope the ones buying are going. Not buying to keep their name on the list and flogging the ones they cba going to.

 

[JLW]

With that regard, Koeman would've been better for him than Guardiola.

100%

 

[Barnfred 55]

Reckon Tim Howard accounted for 20 of them on his own.

I was thinking the same. That and titting about at the back.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Wow that's crazy, wonder what the 2 was?

One was probably the Stek foul that wasn't given against Boro. Can't think of any out and out howlers off the top of my head.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

The last two seasons is absolutely atrocious!

The form of Stones & Jags at times contributed a lot to that.

 

[DanEFC92]

Just watched the press conference. They don't half ask some daft questions.

 

[Nymzee]

Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.

School of Science.

This isn't Wimbledon you classless oaf.

Shut up Moomin you void.

 

[Nymzee]

Who is that?

How young are you.

 

[davek]

You can say what you want about Koeman, but I was noticing that they have more stats on the EPL site these days and being a complete stats nerd, tool a look at Everton's over the years to see if I could see a change in style from Moyes to Martinez to this year (most of the stats only start in 06/07). The one that stood out for me the most was "Errors leading to Goals"

07/08 - 4
08/09 - 4
09/10 - 5
10/11 - 6
11/12 - 5
12/13 - 7
13/14 - 6
14/15 - 15
15/16 - 10
16/17 - 2 (on pace for 3)

As reference over that period Man United have averaged 4 per year (min 2, max 6) while Arsenal have averaged 8 per year (min 5, max 14). RK's done something right.

How on earth can Everton have had two errors that lead to goals? Lol. These stats people must have a very strange system. Any idea what the criteria is, because it sounds like the only criteria are own goals and suicidal back passes.

Call me old fashioned but balls played into the box and not defended are errors. Or maybe not these days and goals conceded that way are shrugged off as an act of God? I bet there isn't many managers who see it that way.

 

[Nymzee]

How on earth can Everton have had two errors that lead to goals? Lol. These stats people must have a very strange system. Any idea what the criteria is, because it sounds like the only criteria are own goals and suicidal back passes.

Call me old fashioned but balls played into the box and not defended are errors. Or maybe not these days and goals conceded that way are shrugged off as an act of God? I bet there isn't many managers who see it that way.

Errors leading to goals encapsulate only shooting oneself in the foot a la back passes etc.

 

[Ollie d]

You can say what you want about Koeman, but I was noticing that they have more stats on the EPL site these days and being a complete stats nerd, tool a look at Everton's over the years to see if I could see a change in style from Moyes to Martinez to this year (most of the stats only start in 06/07). The one that stood out for me the most was "Errors leading to Goals"

07/08 - 4
08/09 - 4
09/10 - 5
10/11 - 6
11/12 - 5
12/13 - 7
13/14 - 6
14/15 - 15
15/16 - 10
16/17 - 2 (on pace for 3)

As reference over that period Man United have averaged 4 per year (min 2, max 6) while Arsenal have averaged 8 per year (min 5, max 14). RK's done something right.

It's the fear of giving away a goal, and getting that big pie-head nutting them in the changing rooms that keeping individual errors down