Ronald Koeman discussion

[moyes cardy]

Formation wasn't the best but ultimately individual performances and errros cost us. Most of us inc RK know what needs to be done and it will be in the summer. Top 7 is progress it will take more than 9 months to realistically go any higher.

 

[hktoffee]

This really. As soon as I saw Barry named, it had defensive set up written all over it. What shocked me more than anything though was a lack of discipline and positional play, we were literally all over the place at one point. Let's hope it's a one off. I'd rather go for a win and lose than go for a draw and lose......

I think Schniderlin and Gana were a bit confussed with their roles when Barry was on the pitch. Schniderlin shall be the holding midfielder throughout the match.

 

[Mikeonlythebestwilldo]

Will play Schniderlin, Gana and McCarthy in CM next week if Koeman persists with 4-3-3 at home.

Should have started that against spurs mate

 

[hktoffee]

Should have started that against spurs mate

Things changed when McCarthy and Mirallas coming on. If not the errors I do believe we can get a draw.

 

[davek]

And ? Please don't say that starting Barry,s a good thing mate

I'm not. Nt i a game like that anyway. But Koeman's point was that Spurs won because they have a settled unit. We do too for the most part.

 

[Eggs]

Cap in hand gets kick in teeth. Twas ever thus.

Set up to meekly offer a rearguard action and that will embolden the opposition to dominate you.

It;s why I believe Koeman will always fall short of the extra points we need to get top four while he's here. It's his instinct to defer to teams he sees as superior.

...I might be wrong but I thought I heard in commentary that he was the last manager to win a league game at Spurs.

 

[roydo]

I'm not. Nt i a game like that anyway. But Koeman's point was that Spurs won because they have a settled unit. We do too for the most part.

Not in the sense that it is one managers first season at a new club, against a pretty settled unit, built by a manager who has been backed. I E, thats what we are building towards.

Anyrate, not seen the match yet, so will wait for 8 minutes later to fully assess it. Or not.

 

[bluestevon]

...I might be wrong but I thought I heard in commentary that he was the last manager to win a league game at Spurs.

He was, whilst at saints he managed wins away at Chelsea, man United and spurs last season, the season before at United and arsenal.

 

[MikeH72]

Not good from Ronald today, it must be said.

 

[jceverton]

One ropey half against Stoke's donkeys and it's been binned completely, as has Holgate. Very disappointing, yet Barry and Mori get multiple goes at being horrendous

It's a poor decision in my view and just been done so he can shoehorn some players in at the expense of the overall team balance. It plays to strengths of Coleman/Baines, gives Lukaku support and we look better at the back with 3 central defenders.

 

[Runcornblue52]

Not good from Ronald today, it must be said.

Bit worrying that all the nobodies on here spotted the problem before the game .........and he didn't ....

 

[4737carlin]

Joel and Barry have been here for years.

True about Joel but he was criminally kept on the bench in favor of a failing Howard by the last manager and the start of this season left out in favor of a shocking Stek, at the club for years but not in the side

 

[Markydys]

What is it that Barry has over these Everton managers. Can not believe he played today. Not only was he completely ineffective, but Guaye (our best performer all season) looked totally out of sorts having to play in a different role. You could see it after the first 10 minutes - I don't understand why he didn't change anything until gone 60 minutes.

A win today would've made it very interesting (although I never believe we should be competing yet with the top 4) so it's disappointing that we've underperformed again.

 

[blulouie]

For me if we play f mori he has to play in a back 3 he is woeful makes Williams look woefull as well need 2 new centre backs next season

Very good post.

 

[JonS]

Cap in hand gets kick in teeth. Twas ever thus.

Set up to meekly offer a rearguard action and that will embolden the opposition to dominate you.

It;s why I believe Koeman will always fall short of the extra points we need to get top four while he's here. It's his instinct to defer to teams he sees as superior.

Agree we shouldn't set up to meekly defer to the opposition.

Disagree that it is necessarily Koemans instinct to do this