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Ronald Koeman discussion

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It's all about trying to make this club better. We have seen resources wasted in this first two transfer windows. Signing Bolasie was like getting £27M and incinerating it. Schneiderlin was never a priority and the Spurs game underlined that in spades.
One defeat in 10 and you're desperately grasping for your latest stick to try and beat Koeman with.
 
We had loads of midfielders under Martinez too, they were just crap.
We have exactly the same number in fact, only we've replaced Gibson and Cleverley with Gana and Schneiderlin

Anyone who doesn't think this represents an improvement in quality needs to go have a lie down

Funny how Martinez hadn't 'painted us into a corner' when he had the same number of CM players under him like, it's become beyond pathetic this tbh
 
We have exactly the same number in fact, only we've replaced Gibson and Cleverely with Ghana and Schneiderlin

Anyone who doesn't think this represents an improvement in quality needs to go have a lie down

Funny how Martinez hadn't 'painted us into a corner' when he had the same number of CM players under him like, it's become beyond pathetic this tbh

There's really no point continuing to argue, the dead horse has been beaten to a pulp at this point.
 

There's some tortuous definitions going on here about players who occupy the middle of the pitch in order to justify having so many of them:

"but he's not a defensive midfielder, he's a central midfielder...and that other player is not a central or defensive midfielder they're holding midfielders...and that other one is what I'd call a Regista...not a CM at all, but someone who occupies space...erm...in the midle of the pitch...but erm...further back, so we really dont have too many central midfielders at all"
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Let's just accept it for what it is: we have 6 realistic starters chasing two berths. And if there's any kids coming through like Charsley, Grant and Walsh even remotely ready to step up they may as well just walk in and ask for a transfer now.

Wouldn't it be great if we had just two players chasing a position behind or beside Lukaku?
 
There's some tortuous definitions going on here about players who occupy the middle of the pitch in order to justify having so many of them:

"but he's not a defensive midfielder, he's a central midfielder...and that other player is not a central or defensive midfielder they're holding midfielders...and that other one is what I'd call a Regista...not a CM at all, but someone who occupies space...erm...in the midle of the pitch...but erm...further back, so we really dont have too many central midfielders at all"
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Let's just accept it for what it is: we have 6 realistic starters chasing two berths. And if there's any kids coming through like Charsley, Grant and Walsh even remotely ready to step up they may as well just walk in and ask for a transfer now.

Wouldn't it be great if we had just two players chasing a position behind or beside Lukaku?
Only we play with 3 in midfield. Do you even watch us play?

We had exactly the same number under brown shoes btw, who played with 2.
 

There's some tortuous definitions going on here about players who occupy the middle of the pitch in order to justify having so many of them:

"but he's not a defensive midfielder, he's a central midfielder...and that other player is not a central or defensive midfielder they're holding midfielders...and that other one is what I'd call a Regista...not a CM at all, but someone who occupies space...erm...in the midle of the pitch...but erm...further back, so we really dont have too many central midfielders at all"
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Let's just accept it for what it is: we have 6 realistic starters chasing two berths. And if there's any kids coming through like Charsley, Grant and Walsh even remotely ready to step up they may as well just walk in and ask for a transfer now.

Wouldn't it be great if we had just two players chasing a position behind or beside Lukaku?

He did buy Lookman for that.

The right player probably wasn't available hence why we got Valencia on loan as a stop gap.
 

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