Ronald Koeman discussion

[nsno-chris]

There's some tortuous definitions going on here about players who occupy the middle of the pitch in order to justify having so many of them:

"but he's not a defensive midfielder, he's a central midfielder...and that other player is not a central or defensive midfielder they're holding midfielders...and that other one is what I'd call a Regista...not a CM at all, but someone who occupies space...erm...in the midle of the pitch...but erm...further back, so we really dont have too many central midfielders at all".

The only thing tortuous is your constant bashing of the Ronk, every opportunity. It's boring

Let's just accept it for what it is: we have 6 realistic starters chasing two berths. And if there's any kids coming through like Charsley, Grant and Walsh even remotely ready to step up they may as well just walk in and ask for a transfer now.

It's 3, try watching a game and you may see. Secondly the Ronk has proven the kids get a chance, so those you mentioned will blossom under such skilled players as Morgs.

Wouldn't it be great if we had just two players chasing a position behind or beside Lukaku?

You mean like Barkley, kev, bolassie, lookman, Lennon, Valencia

 

[davek]

Only we play with 3 in midfield. Do you even watch us play?

We had exactly the same number under brown shoes btw, who played with 2.

Do you?

We played the last few matches with three CMs in the team.

Before that (from the beginning of last February going back) at Stoke, Palace, City, Southampton, Hull, Liverpool we played two and we didn't always stick with 433 either: S'ton and Leicester we went 4-2-3-1 and 3-4-3 respectively. Against Liverpool we went 4-2-3-1. In fact, we've mixed formation up all season long but apart from the last 3/4 games have never played more than two CMs in a game.

Lol.

Thinking cap on lad.

 

[Bud McBlokeski]

Not really, as we spunked £20m on players to chase that spot - Kone and Niasse

Koeman didn't, and I trust his transfer nouse over Bobbys.

 

[davek]

He did buy Lookman for that.

The right player probably wasn't available hence why we got Valencia on loan as a stop gap.

Valencia is a strange one. I dont think he's done too bad off the bench. But he wont change the set up to accommodate him even against tat at home. So we may as well say we have no one here that can force the issue on team selection.

 

[davek]

It's 3, try watching a game and you may see. Secondly the Ronk has proven the kids get a chance, so those you mentioned will blossom under such skilled players as Morgs.

Same answer to you:

We played the last few matches with three CMs in the team.

Before that (from the beginning of last February going back) at Stoke, Palace, City, Southampton, Hull, Liverpool we played two and we didn't always stick with 433 either: S'ton and Leicester we went 4-2-3-1 and 3-4-3 respectively. Against Liverpool we went 4-2-3-1. In fact, we've mixed formation up all season long but apart from the last 3/4 games have never played more than two CMs in a game.

...try looking beyond the end of your nose when analysing the trends in the way we set up this season.

The Barry/Gueye or Gueye/McCarthy combo has been the only game in town apart form the last 4 games or so.

Unreal.

 

[Titus Bramble]

I like him

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Do you?

We played the last few matches with three CMs in the team.

Before that (from the beginning of last February going back) at Stoke, Palace, City, Southampton, Hull, Liverpool we played two and we didn't always stick with 433 either: S'ton and Leicester we went 4-2-3-1 and 3-4-3 respectively. Against Liverpool we went 4-2-3-1. In fact, we've mixed formation up all season long but apart from the last 3/4 games have never played more than two CMs in a game.

Lol.

Thinking cap on lad.

He played his preferred systems of 3-5-2 or 4-3-3 in the main, since Schneiderlin has bedded in its been exclusively 3, so he plays with 3.

Last Feb? He only arrived in the summer lol

You chat absolute bubbles

 

[MikeH72]

Whether we play 2 or 3 is actually irrelevant, as the 2 or 3 we have now are much better at football than the previous 2 or 3 we had to make do with.

 

[granter79]

Match day tmrw again. What a time to be a blue with Ronald in charge. Looking forward not back
COYB

 

[MikeH72]

Match day tmrw again. What a time to be a blue with Ronald in charge. Looking forward not back
COYB

Enjoying the match day experience myself mate. Renewed for next season already rather than waiting around til the last minute again to see whether or not our manager's getting sacked.

 

[davek]

He played his preferred systems of 3-5-2 or 4-3-3 in the main, since Schneiderlin has bedded in its been exclusively 3, so he plays with 3.

Last Feb? He only arrived in the summer lol

You chat absolute bubbles

Two CMs played all season apart from the last four games....and 'but, but, but...Schneiderlin isn't a CM he's a box-to-box player'. Make your mind up.

Surrender accepted.

 

[nsno-chris]

Same answer to you:

We played the last few matches with three CMs in the team.

Before that (from the beginning of last February going back) at Stoke, Palace, City, Southampton, Hull, Liverpool we played two and we didn't always stick with 433 either: S'ton and Leicester we went 4-2-3-1 and 3-4-3 respectively. Against Liverpool we went 4-2-3-1. In fact, we've mixed formation up all season long but apart from the last 3/4 games have never played more than two CMs in a game.

...try looking beyond the end of your nose when analysing the trends in the way we set up this season.

The Barry/Gueye or Gueye/McCarthy combo has been the only game in town apart form the last 4 games or so.

Unreal.

So, prior to January he had Gibson, Gueye, Barry, McCarthy, Besic, and of course an emerging Davies

So he had 6, he replaced one tosh (Gibson) for one class (Morgs).

In all scenarios we've been hampered by Besic and McCarthy being injured and prior to January Gibson being either injured or drunk

This leaves 3/4 vying for 2/3 spots, dependent on formation. We were so short on midfield options with Gueye leaving for AFCON that he put his trust in Davies and it worked like a charm.

Now we're getting people back to fitness we have options.

Your agenda driven drivel as more holes than a block of Swiss cheese

 

[davek]

So, prior to January he had Gibson, Gueye, Barry, McCarthy, Besic, and of course an emerging Davies

So he had 6, he replaced one tosh (Gibson) for one class (Morgs).

In all scenarios we've been hampered by Besic and McCarthy being injured and prior to January Gibson being either injured or drunk

This leaves 3/4 vying for 2/3 spots, dependent on formation. We were so short on midfield options with Gueye leaving for AFCON that he put his trust in Davies and it worked like a charm.

Now we're getting people back to fitness we have options.

Your agenda driven drivel as more holes than a block of Swiss cheese

Prior to January Gibson was not a viable starter and neither was Besic for two different reasons. Besic was always due back round about now, so what Koeman did was go out and replace a player with zero chance of a start with one who he would feel bound to start and play every game given the ridiculously high fee he paid for him and at the same time Besic was making strides back to full fitness. In effect he gave us a situation where four players (McCarthy, Barry, Gueye and Davies) were realistically chasing two starting positions and gave us a situation where SIX players are now chasing two (possibly three given formation) starting positions with the addition of Schneiderlin and the re-introduction of Besic.

If that isn't a cock-eyed transfer policy I dont know what is. SIX players chasing those two positions. It is INSANE!

 

[Mountfield1985]

So, prior to January he had Gibson, Gueye, Barry, McCarthy, Besic, and of course an emerging Davies

So he had 6, he replaced one tosh (Gibson) for one class (Morgs).

In all scenarios we've been hampered by Besic and McCarthy being injured and prior to January Gibson being either injured or drunk

This leaves 3/4 vying for 2/3 spots, dependent on formation. We were so short on midfield options with Gueye leaving for AFCON that he put his trust in Davies and it worked like a charm.

Now we're getting people back to fitness we have options.

Your agenda driven drivel as more holes than a block of Swiss cheese

That's true, but my only concern is now that the options are better Koeman seems like he wants to shoehorn as many of them in as possible. Which I thought was to our detriment in the Boro/Spurs games.

I really wish we'd go back to the 3-5-2 to get some width in the side.

 

[Little Ralphy]

Prior to January Gibson was not a viable starter and neither was Besic for two different reasons. Besic was always due back round about now, so what Koeman did was go out and replace a player with zero chance of a start with one who he would feel bound to start and play every game given the ridiculously high fee he paid for him and at the same time Besic was making strides back to full fitness. In effect he gave us a situation where four players (McCarthy, Barry, Gueye and Davies) were realistically chasing two starting positions and gave us a situation where SIX players are now chasing two (possibly three given formation) starting positions with the addition of Schneiderlin and the re-introduction of Besic.

If that isn't a cock-eyed transfer policy I dont know what is. SIX players chasing those two positions. It is INSANE!

It's called improving the squad.

Last season we had Osman, Gibson and Cleverley. He's replaced them with Gueye, Schneiderlin and now Davies has come through. That's a massive upgrade.