Ronald Koeman discussion

[MikeH72]

Ah never mind, we were so close

Just needed your mate Bobby Martin to stay on.

 

[orly]

Just needed your mate Bobby Martin to stay on.

No no, I'm pretty sure me and @ianefc were against Martinez long before you arrived to bore us all with you memes and follow Dave around. Koeman's been the sort of manager we were hoping for I think

 

[MikeH72]

No no, I'm pretty sure me and @ianefc were against Martinez long before you arrived to bore us all with you memes and follow Dave around. Koeman's been the sort of manager we were hoping for I think

So Bobby's not a family friend?

 

[Nymzee]

Small steps lads, lots of small steps.

 

[ToffeeDan]

Koeman demonstrates a shrewd footballing mind - he obviously works the opponent out well after sizing them up in a head-to-head situation. Last season he started with 24 from 19 but finished with 39 from 19 (2nd only to Leicester) in the reverse fixtures. He's on course to do it again with us (27 from 19 and now 20 from just 9). To see the improvement in our play, the consistency in players like Ross and the results in the past 2 and a bit months is very pleasing.

 

[orly]

Koeman demonstrates a shrewd footballing mind - he obviously works the opponent out well after sizing them up in a head-to-head situation. Last season he started with 24 from 19 but finished with 39 from 19 (2nd only to Leicester) in the reverse fixtures. He's on course to do it again with us (27 from 19 and now 20 from just 9). To see the improvement in our play, the consistency in players like Ross and the results in the past 2 and a bit months is very pleasing.

Interesting this, results are poorer following his four months golf sojourns over the summer then when the winter comes (weather changes) he actually does some work

 

[ToffeeDan]

Interesting this, results are poorer following his four months golf sojourns over the summer then when the winter comes (weather changes) he actually does some work

Was it the "on course" that gave it away?

 

[orly]

Was it the "on course" that gave it away?

Absolutely.

I also rearranged some letters in your post to spell The Belfry, St Andrews and Augusta

 

[EFC78]

This post is partly aimed at Dave who (if I recall correctly) previously questioned Koemans treatment of Ross and Niasse...

Has anyone noticed how (unless he really doesn't rate you - like with Niasse) Koemann manages to keep the squad feeling involved?

Firstly I've noticed he won't drop a player after one bad game but if the player has two or three bad games in a row (eg Jags, Holgate, Lookman) he will drop them.

The dropping is not for ever though and sooner or later they are given a chance to come back.

He is careful to make the youngsters feel involved still: Calvert-Lewin being brought back yesterday, I reckon Lookman will be back as a sub soon and probably Holgate too. I'm sure if there was a way to keep Stek involved without dropping Robles he would think of that too.

I think his man-management is absolutely brilliant. And his coaching ability not bad either...

Yeah I have noticed this to an extent too. It was something that was odd at times during the Martinez era how he would completely drop players for long periods of time and I think that was likely to demotivate them. Seem to remember him doing it with Deulofeu, Mirallas and Stones. Basically he was too stubborn for his own good and believed the hype after the first season, where he managed excellently, and the players also got on board with his methods. The next 2 seasons he was unable to adapt and thought he could do no wrong and the players saw through it.

Keeping on topic with Koeman, I have noticed what you have said seems to be correct. I think Koeman values the importance of his squad, and not just the starting 11. In this era with so many injuries and other things coming in to play like International Tournaments, and European Football, managers have to be able to make 17 or 18 players feel included and hungry, and not just 11 or 12. The ones that Koeman doesn't feel are good enough have been moved on.

 

[ianefc]

No no, I'm pretty sure me and @ianefc were against Martinez long before you arrived to bore us all with you memes and follow Dave around. Koeman's been the sort of manager we were hoping for I think

Had his number from day 1. He relegated Wigan. Even Steve Bruce couldn't manage that.

 

[Mikeonlythebestwilldo]

Had his number from day 1. He relegated Wigan. Even Steve Bruce couldn't manage that.

Cracker ian mate

 

[madkiwi]

Small steps lads, lots of small steps.

We've also made some big strides.

 

[rochdaleblue]

Not many 'muscle fatigue' injuries either eh.

And to think Martinez was a qualified physio...but ok we move on and we have.

 

[Kenshin]

I had not realised that we are all but guaranteed to be in europe next season. Incredible now it seems a reality.

Koeman has finished in europein his first season at every one of his clubs now, fantastic achievement and we can see why he was hired, job done now for next season and we can hopefully push the teams above us and have a good finish to the season.

 

[Abraders]

I had not realised that we are all but guaranteed to be in europe next season. Incredible now it seems a reality.

Koeman has finished in europein his first season at every one of his clubs now, fantastic achievement and we can see why he was hired, job done now for next season and we can hopefully push the teams above us and have a good finish to the season.

Leicester could spoil the party still though.