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Ronald Koeman discussion

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I'm not arsed about the last two seasons

I'm judging Koeman, not Martinez

He's proved he's sound with beating dross, the odd good showing against the weaker of the top 6 but seriously lacking in big games like the Derbys and cup games
I'm judging Koeman too - he's never been our manager before, so I can't use his previous seasons with us as a benchmark. Therefore, in order to assess progress and impact, I compare this season's Everton to that of previous recent seasons... We have improved, in virtually every measurable way.
 
Well the further you go the more chance you have of winning

We where beaten at home by a championship side and a relegation threatened Leicester

This was the same since 1995. You don't get more credit by losing to Sky6 teams in cup games. You just lost. Simple as that.
 
I'm not arsed about the last two seasons

I'm judging Koeman, not Martinez

He's proved he's sound with beating dross, the odd good showing against the weaker of the top 6 but seriously lacking in big games like the Derbys and cup games
Did you honestly bealieve Koeman would change the entire team and their attitude in his first season? It's not like we had an amazing record in the Derby pre Koeman is it? It will take time to change the negative mind set of some of these players to realises that their capable of beating the RS. I don't think some of them will ever learn and they'll need to be shipped off.

As far as cups go we haven't won one since 1995 so I've no idea why you'd think Komean should be any more accountable for not winning one in his first season that was all about rebuilding anyway.

One season is not long enough to seriously judge how good Koeman will be here but the last two season's are significant because they are a stark contrast to this one. I'd say this season was a massive improvement on the dross of the last two.
 

Did you honestly bealieve Koeman would change the entire team and their attitude in his first season? It's not like we had an amazing record in the Derby pre Koeman is it? It will take time to change the negative mind set of some of these players to realises that their capable of beating the RS. I don't think some of them will ever learn and they'll need to be shipped off.

As far as cups go we haven't won one since 1995 so I've no idea why you'd think Komean should be any more accountable for not winning one in his first season that was all about rebuilding anyway.

One season is not long enough to seriously judge how good Koeman will be here but the last two season's are significant because they are a stark contrast to this one. I'd say this season was a massive improvement on the dross of the last two.

Judging him against the big sides and his cup runs he looks very very average
 
Judging him against the big sides and his cup runs he looks very very average
Four points taken against Man City, two points taken against Man Utd, a point taken against Spurs and three points (possibly more) taken against Arsenal. We've beaten Man City 4-0 and Arsenal 2-1. Not all the doom and gloom you'd gave us bealieve against the "big sides".

We all know the cup defeats were very disappointing but unless you actually win the cup the run itself is meaningless and no Everton manager has won anything since Joe Royle so you'll have to forgive me if I don't hold that to much against Koeman in his debut season that was all about undoing the damage of Martinez.
 

What's his excuse for getting knocked out of both cups to poor teams
One was very early doors in the season when he and the team hadn't gelled well together. The other was the catalyst for the run of home victorys since. Nither were good but it makes no difference if you lose in the third round or the final. You win sweet FA.
 
I would give it a 7.5 /10.
We have finished as high as the ability in the squad would allow. Considering the long term injuries to Bolasie, Coleman and Funes Mori that is no small achievement.
The manager certainly did not take the job to work with the squad that was already in place at Everton. January proved that.

RK is a manager that can get results and with better players in the squad we should be able to get even better results. He has given academy players their chance. However, we have seen that you can't just throw three or four young players into a team and get results. They must be introduced slowly and at the right time. A player like Davies is a bit of a freak and is the exception rather than the rule.

Next season...no idea yet as it all now comes down who we buy and who are sold.
Four or five really good players onto the current squad could see us challenge for the top four...we are probably only an extra two wins away from that this season...it is certainly attainable.

We need a quality goalkeeper, a centre half, a centre forward , cover at left back and I believe we need a more creative midfielder/striker(Rooney?).

This summer Kone will be leaving and I don't see Valencia being kept, I think Funes Mori will leave as well.
Coleman and Bolasie will miss half of next season and Besic still has to have a sustained injury free run.

It is amazing how the entire squad will have been reshaped in such a short time
 
Seems to be getting his tactics wrong consistently against the better quality opposition.

Without proper cover in schniderlin or McCarthy the decision to try and emulate Utd's man marking of Hazard with Gana was a disaster.

Koeman's tactical capabilities appear more limited than I first thought.

Apart from City and maybe Arsenal at home we've been tactically deficient against better opposition.

Maybe he will get it right with an improvement in the squad, hopefully anyway.
Gana marked Hazard out of the game btw.

Only for his free kick, poor keeping & defending you wouldnt have thought Hazard was even on the pitch.
Nothing wrong with the tactics with a limited squad yesterday.
 
there will be a rebuild again next season, he blooded young players that we are going to need next season.
euro footy plus Holgate and davies first team players, he is getting rid of the rubbish he inherited, you can not ignore the complete mess Martinez left the squad in, I do not think he could of done much more.
 

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