Ronald Koeman discussion

[Sy-]

he's being derided as tactically inadequate?

Let's have it right, what he's working with is horrific (kids excluded)

Agree with both sides of the argument, but we are approaching big teams with our tactics signalling obvious trepidation from the kick-off. The conservative tactics deployed yesterday nullify the threat of people like Barkley, he gets lost, marked and ineffectual sitting deeper. Add to that two players consumed by unfamiliar man marking jobs (Gana/Hazard & DCL/Moses). A knock-on effect being that we never pressed enough to ask questions of Luiz who was not up for a scrap with Rom, and for a large proportion of the game, injured.

Why didn't we go at Chelsea like we did City and Arsenal, just doing our normal thing? I feel like he started the game with what should have been a plan B.

...but yes, it doesn't help there are injuries and sub-standard players all over the shop, I trust Ron to take Stek out and probably never to be seen again, the first goal (which I think was soft) and subsequent losing the plot was way worse than Joel's antics the other week.

 

[hktoffee]

Liverpool didn't outspend us, they actually made a profit in the transfer window.

Check out their wages bill too.

 

[Ernie]

One was very early doors in the season when he and the team hadn't gelled well together. The other was the catalyst for the run of home victorys since. Nither were good but it makes no difference if you lose in the third round or the final. You win sweet FA.

sound logic

 

[maccavennie]

I would give it a 7.5 /10.
We have finished as high as the ability in the squad would allow. Considering the long term injuries to Bolasie, Coleman and Funes Mori that is no small achievement.
The manager certainly did not take the job to work with the squad that was already in place at Everton. January proved that.

RK is a manager that can get results and with better players in the squad we should be able to get even better results. He has given academy players their chance. However, we have seen that you can't just throw three or four young players into a team and get results. They must be introduced slowly and at the right time. A player like Davies is a bit of a freak and is the exception rather than the rule.

Next season...no idea yet as it all now comes down who we buy and who are sold.
Four or five really good players onto the current squad could see us challenge for the top four...we are probably only an extra two wins away from that this season...it is certainly attainable.

We need a quality goalkeeper, a centre half, a centre forward , cover at left back and I believe we need a more creative midfielder/striker(Rooney?).

This summer Kone will be leaving and I don't see Valencia being kept, I think Funes Mori will leave as well.
Coleman and Bolasie will miss half of next season and Besic still has to have a sustained injury free run.

It is amazing how the entire squad will have been reshaped in such a short time

good post mate and I'm in agreement. Days like yesterday really wind me me up because it just looked unbalanced from the off and a tendency to be more concerned with them than us. But I think if we get the right players in then the basis is there for us to be a formidable side in iur own right. Yesterday was the first bad performance at home in a long time and overall it's been a decent season in the sense that EL football is secured already.

 

[Kinghowie]

I don't understand why people expect more when the current top 6 outspent Everton in terms of transfer fees and wages, by a mile.

This is football games not mathematics.

No one won a cup for Everton since 1995.

You said it.

 

[nsno-chris]

Seems to be getting his tactics wrong consistently against the better quality opposition.

Without proper cover in schniderlin or McCarthy the decision to try and emulate Utd's man marking of Hazard with Gana was a disaster.

Koeman's tactical capabilities appear more limited than I first thought.

Apart from City and maybe Arsenal at home we've been tactically deficient against better opposition.

Maybe he will get it right with an improvement in the squad, hopefully anyway.

Dafuq is this.

Gana's man marking worked like a treat. Pedro it's a screamer and the game changes completely.

People acting like we got a footballing lesson need to have a sip on reality

 

[ToffeeTim]

Needs to be really pressurising the board for the next few weeks. Seems like they need the gentle nudges in the right direction before they get their act together.

 

[everton2004]

Christ, we lose a game (to the league leaders let's not forget) and the sky is falling. GOT that.

 

[MikeH72]

We really should be steamrolling Chelsea tbh. Dutch Moyes OUT.

 

[blueblue]

good post mate and I'm in agreement. Days like yesterday really wind me me up because it just looked unbalanced from the off and a tendency to be more concerned with them than us. But I think if we get the right players in then the basis is there for us to be a formidable side in iur own right. Yesterday was the first bad performance at home in a long time and overall it's been a decent season in the sense that EL football is secured already.

Mac.
After sixty minutes, before the first goal, did you still think it was a poor performance.
I thought we were standing toe to toe with the champions elect and matching them at that stage.

 

[brigadier]

robles mcgeady cleverley kone niasse lennon, that was the level of the squad he had to work with, if anyone thought we would be chasing top four with that go and see your GP.

 

[Kinghowie]

Check out their wages bill too.

You said transfer fees AND wages. So you meant wages? Should have said that then. They just give Lovren 100k contract, ditto Lallana, Sturridge is their highest earner i think with Milner, they throw money at mediocrity like Moreno, Lucas, Matip etc etc. Just because they throw money around at mediocrity, shouldn't justify them finishing above us .....................because they pay more wages!!!!!!!!!!!!

As you say

This is football games not mathematics.

 

[maccavennie]

Mac.
After sixty minutes, before the first goal, did you still think it was a poor performance.
I thought we were standing toe to toe with the champions elect and matching them at that stage.

I honestly thought it was woeful from both sides mate, a really boring non event. It wasn't just us who were poor, I thought they looked utter tripe as well.

Just felt like an end of season game to me and one moment of class undone us and we never then looked arsed enough to have a good go back.

No harm done in the grand scheme of things, just felt very similar to West Ham away with the players knowing not much was riding on it.

Just my opinion though mate, I know some folk might say it was a good tactical battle for an hour.

 

[hktoffee]

You said it.

Because playing at the top is different genius.

You buy better players with more money.

You think RS, Man City, Man Utd and Arsenal' squads are no better than Everton that's why I call you delusional.

 

[maccavennie]

robles mcgeady cleverley kone niasse lennon, that was the level of the squad he had to work with, if anyone thought we would be chasing top four with that go and see your GP.

I go and see Goodison Park every fortnight mate so I'm fine thanks.