Ronald Koeman discussion

[blueblue]

I look at all of this in a slightly different way.
I have always known that Barca/Koeman was very similar to Everton/Kendall. There are jobs that can't be refused for some. It is the job of their dreams, it is finally coming home.

It doesn't work out for many.

Koeman makes no secret of his love for Barca, but it shows to me that it may take a job of this magnitude to tempt him away from the Everton "project".
I am not at all certain for instance that the Arsenal job would tempt him away....at the moment .
Koeman has a challenge in front of him at Everton that he would appear to relish. It is obvious that promises have been made to him about availability of money and if the club delivers on these promises I think it will take something very big to tempt him away...if the club doesn't deliver fully that may change.

 

[blueblue]

I think you might be a bit confused mate !

I am not sure I am the one that is confused.
You quoted Conte as a manager that is happy in his job....who would have thought that ?
You mentioned Klopp..a manager that has spoken already about the day he leaves Liverpool.
You mentioned Wenger, is he in charge at Arenal next season ?, he refuses to confirm that.
Mourinho rarely stays at any club longer than 3 years and one of those is already gone at Utd.

Conte, ironically is separated from his family who continue to live in Italy and he has been asked by the media if he intends to return to Italy for family reasons.

Koeman is possibly guilty of being honest and direct when answering questions.
But, the job of most managers is short and ends in failure..just like politicians.

 

[lancs blue]

he will be gone before contract ends. the fact he's brought it up raises doubt

 

[Khalekan]

@bicycleheader

Help me out here.

All this speculation on here about Koeman getting the Camp Nou gig.

Would I be right in thinking the only reason this is being touted is that he previously played for Barcelona and that happen he had never played for them this conversation would not even be taking place?

Because I have seen nowt from him during his time in England to make me think "aye up, that fellow will manage Barcelona some day"

I mean, it ain't even like he is a young manager on his 40s or owt....he is a man of 54.

To put that in perspective.....Jose is about the same age and Pep is what, about 47 or so.

And they have been at the top of the managerial totem for yonkos.

And Pochetino is not much over 40.....and the "eccentric" attention seeker over the road is still in his late 40s.

What do the locals think?

Or does the man on the Park Guell omnibus ever even think about Koeman as manager?

For my part, I see nothing wrong with him "dreaming" about managing Barcelona and I appreciate he didn't bring the subject up and he was asked the question by a journo.

I just hope he doesn't believe his own publicity, like a previous manager we had did, and think he is better and bigger than Everton.

IMO Ronald Koeman, like David Moyes before him, should get on with the job in hand and work to build a successful Everton and stop always thinking about the "big move" friendly journalists keep bigging him up for.

The majority opinion on here when Moyes left was that EFC was his high water mark and alas for Sunderland that opinion has been spectacularly vindicated this past three years.

Ditto Koeman.....IMO this is as good as it gets for him because if he sees his contract out he will be in his late 50s and high end football management is increasingly a younger man's game.

Happen he will prove me wrong and walk into the Barca hot seat in the summer but that is how I feel anyway

 

[summerisle]

 

[bicycleheader]

@bicycleheader

Help me out here.

All this speculation on here about Koeman getting the Camp Nou gig.

Would I be right in thinking the only reason this is being touted is that he previously played for Barcelona and that happen he had never played for them this conversation would not even be taking place?

Because I have seen nowt from him during his time in England to make me think "aye up, that fellow will manage Barcelona some day"

I mean, it ain't even like he is a young manager on his 40s or owt....he is a man of 54.

To put that in perspective.....Jose is about the same age and Pep is what, about 47 or so.

And they have been at the top of the managerial totem for yonkos.

And Pochetino is not much over 40.....and the "eccentric" attention seeker over the road is still in his late 40s.

What do the locals think?

Or does the man on the Park Guell omnibus ever even think about Koeman as manager?

For my part, I see nothing wrong with him "dreaming" about managing Barcelona and I appreciate he didn't bring the subject up and he was asked the question by a journo.

I just hope he doesn't believe his own publicity, like a previous manager we had did, and think he is better and bigger than Everton.

IMO Ronald Koeman, like David Moyes before him, should get on with the job in hand and work to build a successful Everton and stop always thinking about the "big move" friendly journalists keep bigging him up for.

The majority opinion on here when Moyes left was that EFC was his high water mark and alas for Sunderland that opinion has been spectacularly vindicated this past three years.

Ditto Koeman.....IMO this is as good as it gets for him because if he sees his contract out he will be in his late 50s and high end football management is increasingly a younger man's game.

Happen he will prove me wrong and walk into the Barca hot seat in the summer but that is how I feel anyway

They don't mention him on any of the many many TV footy review shows and I've never heard anybody mentioning him in person. The regulars around me at the games get talking about the new manager theme at every game and the names change with odd names popping up but nobody says Koeman. For me it's a non runner.

 

[Abraders]

He's not a barca manager

 

[Bullet]

A few days ago it was leaked to several outlets that RK's release clause of £6.7m is too high for Barca. As if.
They took a look at him and decided there were several more attractive candidates and have presumeably communicated this to his agent. That's why RK is, for the first time, definitively ruling out Barca for now.
His statement also indicates he'd turn down an unlikely Arsenal approach. He's done well so I'm happy he'll be here next season.

 

[Carlito]

Koeman can dream about Barca all he likes. They're unlikely to be dreaming about him.

I think there's more chance of him replacing Pochettino at Tottenham.

 

[tadao]

I didn't take to RK at the start of the season. I thought he dealt with certain player situations wrongly. The 'football' we played initially, wasn't the best to look at. The teams he puts out against the 'top' sides.
I can't say he hasn't been anything other than straight though, when talking about the 'project', team and plans etc.
So with cynicism aside, I believe him when he says he'll be here for his contract. When he gets his players in, that's when he can be judged properly on his merits.

 

[Kinghowie]

@bicycleheader


Would I be right in thinking the only reason this is being touted is that he previously played for Barcelona and that happen he had never played for them this conversation would not even be taking place?

Because I have seen nowt from him during his time in England to make me think "aye up, that fellow will manage Barcelona some day"

Would have thought the same about Rikjaard, he was as fired by Sparta Rotterdam after getting them relegated, and was then out of work for a year before being offered the Barca job. Ditto Villanova and Martino, the 2 managers after Pep left. Even Pep, stepping up from the B team. Enrique, after he left Roma by mutual consent and took over at Vigo, where they finished 9th before he took the Barca job. That's their last 5 managers. They don't necessarily go for the biggest names, Barca.

 

[Westend Blue]

Koeman can dream about Barca all he likes. They're unlikely to be dreaming about him.

I think there's more chance of him replacing Pochettino at Tottenham.

Barca are a bit daft with there managerial appointments at times. Plus poch is ex espanyol player/coach I doubt the board will entertain that

 

[Blackwell Livermore]

What else is he going to say? Across the park they're going onwards and upwards, we're never even going to be the best team in the city let alone a powerhouse in this country. Europe? We are going to look rank amateur. The rest of the league is catching us up too, the likes of Stoke signing Shaqiri and us consistently losing our best players, as if Koeman is here for the long haul, us and Moyes were a match made in heaven. Two average entities punching above their weight every so often.

Honest question to genuine fans, do we also make a beeline for BAWK for whatever reason with the same kind of regularity as these s**tehawks who come on here?

 

[smileychap]

I am not sure I am the one that is confused.
You quoted Conte as a manager that is happy in his job....who would have thought that ?
You mentioned Klopp..a manager that has spoken already about the day he leaves Liverpool.
You mentioned Wenger, is he in charge at Arenal next season ?, he refuses to confirm that.
Mourinho rarely stays at any club longer than 3 years and one of those is already gone at Utd.

Conte, ironically is separated from his family who continue to live in Italy and he has been asked by the media if he intends to return to Italy for family reasons.

Koeman is possibly guilty of being honest and direct when answering questions.
But, the job of most managers is short and ends in failure..just like politicians.

Yeah, if there is a sphere of life less principled and prone to short-term planning than even politics, football is probably it.

For some reason I can't get worked up about the prospect of Koeman leaving though. Our best player is a Martinez signing, but Ronko's also boosted the profile of great young players like Holgate, Davies, CL, Barkleys stats show he's growing into a great midfielder and Galloway is still out there. So we're undoubtedly getting a good run out of Koeman but all this talk of projects just sounds in itself short-term.

talk about the club, not your individual project Ronald. Happy to stick with him on results but gotta be honest and I would dearly love to see an ex Evertonian in the manager's seat. Bring on Big Dunc or Stubbs!

 

[macdog]

I am waiting for the Klopp to Barca rumours.