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Ronald Koeman discussion

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Stutheblue said:
Whilst I'm cheesed off with that rubbish served up today, I think that next season, after RK has had this window (with full backing in the transfer market) will be the time to question him if we aren't doing the business. If we're say 8th after 15 games the pressure will be on him more than it is now. This transfer window is 'the' one when the owners have to step up, and so to the Manager and Steve Walsh. If the manager isn't backed fully, the fume will most likely be unparalled!
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I can't see us getting higher than 7th next season with the problems we have.

Want to be surprised but I think with the increase in games, the losing of a large chunk of players (especially main players), the lack of depth we're gonna have to work very hard in the summer
 
Disappointing and feel for those who had endured the arduous journey to watch. Still Swansea and their astute manager did job on us with a threadbare Everton squad. At least some of the youngsters are getting some proper match time..
 
Well if it is shifting a fair few team members and trying to get more players suited for RK it's going to be a team in transition next season. However I'm sure a fair few posters on here are expecting a top 4 challenge but it might be a stretch too far.
 
thrillho said:
Well if it is shifting a fair few team members and trying to get more players suited for RK it's going to be a team in transition next season. However I'm sure a fair few posters on here are expecting a top 4 challenge but it might be a stretch too far.
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We are miles off the top 4, we really are. Like Aguero compared to Enner Valencia away.
 
thrillho said:
Well if it is shifting a fair few team members and trying to get more players suited for RK it's going to be a team in transition next season. However I'm sure a fair few posters on here are expecting a top 4 challenge but it might be a stretch too far.
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I think expectations for next season will be set after the summer.

Adding Europe into the equation certainly adds more to our plate.

Top 4 will only be expected if we retain our most influential players and add some top players.
 

kenada_blue said:
I can't see us getting higher than 7th next season with the problems we have.

Want to be surprised but I think with the increase in games, the losing of a large chunk of players (especially main players), the lack of depth we're gonna have to work very hard in the summer
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kenada_blue said:
I can't see us getting higher than 7th next season with the problems we have.

Want to be surprised but I think with the increase in games, the losing of a large chunk of players (especially main players), the lack of depth we're gonna have to work very hard in the summer
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Hard to disagree mate. I'm hoping for a big transfer window to see if we can start bridging that gap. Under no illusions that it'll be easy. But surely it'll be better than last summer. Getting Moshiri in lifted expectations both on the Stadium front and the 1st team 'improvements'. At this point I'm more optimistic about the former than the latter of those two areas.
 
davek said:
Ot of courtesy I only name people I respect. He hasn't earned it.
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You little liar !

davek said:
Fact remans: under Martinez he expressed his range of talents exponentially. Under Koeman he's added a bit more judgement to his game. I know who I think has had the more fruitful influence.
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davek said:
It was a nightmare period alright: 3 seasons and only two cup semi finals and a record breaking season to show for it. I expected the CL at least. Koeman will do it for us though. This 58 points is a great platform to work off.
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davek said:
Btw, if Martinez is a 'fraud" what is Koeman? Martinez ran up a record points haul for Everton; so far Koeman has clocked up a Moyes-lite 58 points; Martinez has won a trophy in the past decade, Koeman has won the square root of f.a. in that time.

I think the Belgian FA have made a very wise choice to guide them to the World Cup finals. A fine man and a coach who can make maximum use of that nations attacking talent.
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davek said:
Klopp on the other hand IS a superstar manager, for want of a better term. He;s actually had a weaker squad than Koeman has had to work with (and certainly Mourinho and Guardiola have had to work with) and he's got - somehow - 69 points out of those turkeys so far to place them in the driving seat for 3rd or 4th.

He's plaited sawdust there. They'd be lucky to be 8th if Rodgers was still manager.
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davek said:
We've consistently hired people who did very well with their previous clubs. Isn't that all you can do? Catterick, Kendall, Moyes, Martinez, Koeman...all head hunted.
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I could go on ...
 
ilikecheese said:
Vaulting the threadbanned hero.

Cold blooded.
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Dave's thread banned from here ?
Hahaha, that's excellent, I honestly didn't know. Oh my, the opportunities this presents !

Anyway, Koeman, talked a lot about getting the players to make the effort, but, though they looked marginally more interested than they did at West Ham he plainly failed to motivate them enough today, so he has to accept some of the blame.
 
Woolly Blue said:
Dave's thread banned from here ?
Hahaha, that's excellent, I honestly didn't know. Oh my, the opportunities this presents !

Anyway, Koeman, talked a lot about getting the players to make the effort, but, though they looked marginally more interested than they did at West Ham he plainly failed to motivate them enough today, so he has to accept some of the blame.
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Has been for about three weeks.

It was a better read with him.
 

I expect top 4 or a trophy next season. Now that might be completely mental of me, and it wouldn't be the first time. But that should be our target. The board need to get their flippin act together, and Koeman shouldn't be allowed to shy away from it.

There should be no downplaying of expectations and cries for patience. Be arsed with that any more.
 

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