Titus Bramble
Best centre half to grace the Premier League
Fair enough lol
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Fair enough lol
Titus Bramble
Best centre half to grace the Premier League
Yeah maybe. I suppose it's a toss up between the club showing ambition but also whether we can realistically reach the top. I'm sure he'd move on before he stagnated here. Have to wait and see
Bullet
Player Valuation: £10m
RK's had an excellent first season and deserves the support he's gotten thus far regarding new recruits but he shouldn't be allowed to push the club into a paying a ludicrous price for Gylfi particularly after he's handled Barkley badly. Whatever our budget it's finite and paying £40-£50m for a lower half Premiership player who turns 28 in September is utterly reckless. Like Bolasie, Gylfi's value will plummet within a couple of seasons of signing, just when RK will be making his exit. SW needs to assert himself and identity an alternative if Swansea hold out. It appears we're trying to do a Spurs and break into the top 4 by developing a team with moderate investment and therefore can't afford this kind of wastefulness.
The article from the Independent sums up Gylfi as a £40m+ player.
"I managed a laugh of disbelief when I read that Swansea had turned down a £40M bid for their midfielder Gylfi Sigurdsson. Even now, £40M is a big figure for a midfielder outside the Champions League, but Swansea are holding out for more. Maybe I was missing something?
Checking Gylfi's stats, he scored 9 goals last season and had 13 assists, excellent numbers for a midfielder. 3 of the goals were from penalties, but no matter how you slice it, the assist total was excellent. What's weird though is how those assists came about. I went back and watched film of all the assists. 8 of the 13 were from set pieces. 2 of the goals were also from set pieces. Add the penalties back in, and out of 22 goals or assists, more than half came from dead ball situations. That's not a bad thing. Set pieces are an underexploited weapon for most clubs and arguably helped Chelsea win the title, and Sigurdsson has a great right-footed delivery. However, it also means the output doesn't justify the supposed asking price.
Even in an inflated market, for £40-50M you expect a midfield dynamo capable of defending and who carves open the opposition from open play. Gylfi doesn't do that. Take out the dead ball stats, and the shine comes off. Defending has always been an afterthought in his game, and while he has flashes of brilliance - the backheel flick that created a goal against Burnley comes to mind - they don't happen often enough to merit a massive price tag. You end up with an attacking midfielder who doesn't defend much and had 4 goals and 5 assists in 38 appearances last season.
In Sigurdsson's favour, he has been remarkably durable during his time in South Wales, appearing in 32, 36, and all 38 games the last 3 seasons. On the other hand, his age is a consideration and works against a big price. He turns 28 in September, meaning a normal four-year contract will be almost entirely post-peak years.
Even with the Proven Premier League Player premium, which when you think of all the great players in the league that started outside of England seems more hopelessly naive than a mark of quality at this point, Sigurdsson's fee should probably be around half of the rumoured asking price. Compare that to the business Brighton did earlier in the summer for German deadball specialist Pascal Gross at €4M, and it still seems like a lot, but Gylfi does have talent, and he is well loved by Swans fans and coaches alike.
But £50M for Gylfi Sigurdsson? If someone paid that, we'd have to call it The Welsh Job, because it would be the transfer heist of the century."
The article from the Independent sums up Gylfi as a £40m+ player.
"I managed a laugh of disbelief when I read that Swansea had turned down a £40M bid for their midfielder Gylfi Sigurdsson. Even now, £40M is a big figure for a midfielder outside the Champions League, but Swansea are holding out for more. Maybe I was missing something?
Checking Gylfi's stats, he scored 9 goals last season and had 13 assists, excellent numbers for a midfielder. 3 of the goals were from penalties, but no matter how you slice it, the assist total was excellent. What's weird though is how those assists came about. I went back and watched film of all the assists. 8 of the 13 were from set pieces. 2 of the goals were also from set pieces. Add the penalties back in, and out of 22 goals or assists, more than half came from dead ball situations. That's not a bad thing. Set pieces are an underexploited weapon for most clubs and arguably helped Chelsea win the title, and Sigurdsson has a great right-footed delivery. However, it also means the output doesn't justify the supposed asking price.
Even in an inflated market, for £40-50M you expect a midfield dynamo capable of defending and who carves open the opposition from open play. Gylfi doesn't do that. Take out the dead ball stats, and the shine comes off. Defending has always been an afterthought in his game, and while he has flashes of brilliance - the backheel flick that created a goal against Burnley comes to mind - they don't happen often enough to merit a massive price tag. You end up with an attacking midfielder who doesn't defend much and had 4 goals and 5 assists in 38 appearances last season.
In Sigurdsson's favour, he has been remarkably durable during his time in South Wales, appearing in 32, 36, and all 38 games the last 3 seasons. On the other hand, his age is a consideration and works against a big price. He turns 28 in September, meaning a normal four-year contract will be almost entirely post-peak years.
Even with the Proven Premier League Player premium, which when you think of all the great players in the league that started outside of England seems more hopelessly naive than a mark of quality at this point, Sigurdsson's fee should probably be around half of the rumoured asking price. Compare that to the business Brighton did earlier in the summer for German deadball specialist Pascal Gross at €4M, and it still seems like a lot, but Gylfi does have talent, and he is well loved by Swans fans and coaches alike.
But £50M for Gylfi Sigurdsson? If someone paid that, we'd have to call it The Welsh Job, because it would be the transfer heist of the century."
Cork Evertonian
Player Valuation: £50m
Im looking forward to what next season brings under Koeman.Im expecting a slow start.I mean like we will have so many new players to integrate into the team.So expect plenty of wailing and gnashing of teeth from the usual suspects until about mid to late September.But this team will click and when it does, we will be a force to be reckoned with.Top six and a trophy is what i want and expect next season and who knows perhaps we might even finish in the top four?
We know it has.
Both Koeman and Walsh as good as said it during the Sky day.
Wayne was always coming home after that.
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
Why do you care mate if we have overpaid by £10m?
We are getting rid of our extensive dross to help fund the acquisition of a stronger squad all around.
Transfer fee wise, we have still raised more than we have paid ( or close to on par).
If, as looks likely, Barkely goes then we would all be panicking about finding a replacement.
Sure we don't have infinite funds, but we are balancing our transfer fee funds beautifully.
The funniest thing about this upcoming season will be the absolute fume at the teamsheet because we didn't start boss and expensive player X.
We are going to really have to learn how to accept a deep squad means boss players are sometimes left out. What a great problem to have.
We are going to really have to learn how to accept a deep squad means boss players are sometimes left out. What a great problem to have.
We have put a 50mil pricetag on Ross who's had a less impressive year than Gylfi though it was arguably his best year for us, in a team with more possession and on the front foot more than Swansea... Besides that, Gylfi is more important to the Swans than Ross is to us so how do we justify the pricetag for Ross, especially in his last year of contract? RK handled it perfectly... he was right that the club needed(still need) to know... Barkley is being selfish now by not saying anything
So what are our expectations for Expensive Dutch Moyes in Year 2?
Practically all his own team now with 9 of the first choice XI his signings.
I'd usually excuse the manager some time to settle in his players but he has paid a massive premium for proven PL performers so surely we must be hoping for better than last year?
Obviously our best 2 attacking players from the last 2 years are gone/going and look to be replaced by Rooney/Sigurdsson/Sandro. 2 very experienced players and one exciting youngster. All free kick specialists.
Practically all his own team now with 9 of the first choice XI his signings.
I'd usually excuse the manager some time to settle in his players but he has paid a massive premium for proven PL performers so surely we must be hoping for better than last year?
Obviously our best 2 attacking players from the last 2 years are gone/going and look to be replaced by Rooney/Sigurdsson/Sandro. 2 very experienced players and one exciting youngster. All free kick specialists.
JLW
Player Valuation: £60m
It's simple mate he has to produce, it's his team now and a lot of money has been invested to get his team, so their can't be any excuses. Am sure Moshiri will will think the same.. My only concern is have we changed too much too soon??
I hope am wrong but it might take us a while to get some consistency due to the massive overhaul of the squad! One thing though, it's certainly the most optimistic I have felt for decades!!
Koeman and Walsh. It's been going on since Dunc's testimonial.
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
Ronald Koeman, 12 months ago I was certain on this guy but seriously we are starting to look like we really have struck gold with this fella, I dont justthink its the money that are bringing in these new player but his name and reputation as well.
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