Ronald Koeman discussion

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Lanolin said:
No offence but this is becoming really hard work. You're imagining things that I'm not saying because you think I'm a froth mouthed bedwetter when in reality I'm just trying to say that last night's result was a pretty good one, but one which we have achieved fairly regularly and in a similar way in recent years.

1. The victories were in the past yes. By the 'old Everton' the same 'old Everton' that the poster I was replying to had said would lose. I was saying they wouldn't, because they didn't.

2. City are really good, yes. They have better players than us, yes. I have not suggested otherwise. You don't know what to say about me not being able to see it because I can see it. All I'm saying is that some people appear to be making out like it was a tactical masterpiece and an outstanding result. I don't believe it was either. It was a disciplined, hard working, defensive performance, the like of which I have witnessed many many times. I had hoped we now had enough quality to expect a little better than we got in the 2nd half but it wasn't to be. Nevermind, we'll have another go next week at Chelsea and maybe do better.
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Not meaning to make it hard work and I'm not frothing either ;)..

I am saying the Everton of old as In RM team.. and I think even Moyes old teams would have lost as the man city team these days is vastly superior to anything he faced..

I don't think it was a tactical masterpiece either... but I think it was our best chance to get something from the game and we nearly took it all...
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
His tactics from the off were spot on. Man marking Silva kept him out of the game and City weren't their usually flowing self. He'd identified the left side of their 3 as the weak point and put Calvert Lewin out there to look to play in behind, and it worked. Pep swapped his CB's over to try and reduce the threat.

In that first half we restricted them to pot shots from distance in the main, but got slightly lucky with the shot that came back off the post, just before we went up the other end and scored.

2nd half Pep changed it, looked to get some width into their play as the central areas were too congested, and Koeman reacted by going to a back 4 and looking to press their backline higher up the pitch. The goal was disappointing as it was about the only thing that Holgate did wrong all night, but it was a lovely finish from Sterling tbf.

The cry arsing that we didn't somehow steam roller 10 men in the second half defies belief tbh.
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Was an opportunity missed.

But an understandable one given where the Everton team is right now.

Had that been in January then I would fume. But it wasn't. It was in August. Having bought in about 6 new players.

People need to get real. I feel.
 

I'm still not sure I understand some of these takes. Sure, it was a missed opportunity.

But Man City wasn't hammering us, we defended well. They didn't create the goal and we didn't get lucky. In the second half, Pickford made like one save.

Also, Koeman did not tactically sit back. He subbed on two attacking players. He has no other forward. The players didn't play well offensively. Not sure how much that was on him. But it's not just chances created that matter, ESPECIALLY when you are already winning. It's OKAY to sit back and defend when you are good at it. Frankly, City were lucky to get a ball dropped at Sterling's foot.

This Man City team is also better than Chelsea. Right now the definitely are.

And AGAIN, our whole team is new. Most have not played together. The defenders have, that why we looked better in defense.
 
bizzaro said:
It helps if you make reasonable points.

But you're not at all. Quite unrealistic in your view. That flies in the face of what the real world of football is like.
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stop being silly, I've mentioned several times the context of it being the start of the season and lots of new players. i.e: not being unrealistic. I'm not wholesale slating the manager, however your replies are dismissive and lacking much in the way of back and forth conversation.
 

we have got a new squad barely played together takes normally a lot longer to gel, we still need more players and people are moaning we have 4 points from our first two games. they have some team and squad city and i thought the players put everything in. if you asked me how many points id be happy with from first two games i would off said 3, 4 is a bonus, 6 would off been magical but its a great start lets get behind us ey.
 
also what does koeman see in calvert lewin ... he is terrible blah blah, why is he signing rooney he is unfit and passed it, he constantly proves you wrong got no idea why everyone is so against our manager. be suprised if everyone in here supports everton.
 

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