Ronald Koeman discussion

[ijjysmith]

I did like the way he again pressured the board to keep spending by saying 'if we want to move to the next level we need a striker'.

I mean we can all see it, but he's making it very clear.

 

[NilesRossly]

This is true. What I will say about this is we were trying to get men up field to support DCL. If we had one of either Lookman or Mirallas to run up field, we wouldn't need to get as many numbers forward to support DCL. Therefore we might have more security against the counter.

But you need to get the ball to them. Our passing was the issue.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

But you need to get the ball to them. Our passing was the issue.

We were playing long balls to DCL all night. They would have tried to link with him as he was doing a decent job playing that Fellaini role last night.

 

[Kev The Rat]

More than anything it showed the difference between us and a top 4 team, not only technically but mentally.

No other team in the top 6 would have played the way did last night, so it shows how much we have to improve to compete with them.

We seem to go into the games with quite a defeatist attitude, expect to get beat but hope to come away with something.

Myself, I would have took a point before and If we can get through the next three PL games with similiar results then fair enough.

Basically this. Spurs wouldnt have turned up like that let alone Man Utd or even the RS.

We came there with the mentality of a West Brom or Stoke.

 

[Foxache]

I think people are too quick to point at the money spent at City. The money buys the personnel to fit the tactics and talent to create something special but what gave them that dominance was the movement; the fluidity and use of space to dominate possession. Even with an extra man, we didn't have the movement to retain possession. When there are no passes on because we are too static, it becomes a game of hoofball

 

[ijjysmith]

Basically this. Spurs wouldnt have turned up like that let alone Man Utd or even the RS.

We came there with the mentality of a West Brom or Stoke.

If we'd have gone and attacked all night we'd have got turned over 3 or 4.

And you know it.

 

[hktoffee]

If we'd have gone and attacked all night we'd have got turned over 3 or 4.

And you know it.

#the Entertainers.

 

[Kev The Rat]

If we'd have gone and attacked all night we'd have got turned over 3 or 4.

And you know it.

It's not about attacking all night. its about achieving some kind of balance. It was pure knife to gunfight tactics and we were fortunate that they went down to 10 otherwise things could have got out of control very quickly.

 

[TommyDavo]

At this level Everton should have taken the game to city 1 nil to the good and against 10 men, simple as that. It was a Moyes performance and I seen plenty of it last season as well. I hope Koeman has more to his game management than that.

You can only take the game to the oppposition if you control the midfield and we didn't at any point in that game

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Great insight. Let me ask you a serious question: Do you think Koeman makes the same substitutions after the outcome of the game? I want you to answer honestly.

Do you even have the foggiest why he made the changes that he did, both in terms of personnel and team formation?

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Mad how some people think we should attack teams that have less players than us.

Yeah the assumption that it makes them easy meat irrespective of their quality is quite astonishing

 

[bluerobert]

I think people are too quick to point at the money spent at City. The money buys the personnel to fit the tactics and talent to create something special but what gave them that dominance was the movement; the fluidity and use of space to dominate possession. Even with an extra man, we didn't have the movement to retain possession. When there are no passes on because we are too static, it becomes a game of hoofball

I suppose you have to take into account we've basically changed our entire attack give or take in one window. They're going to need a little time to gel. I get what you're saying though. It's hard to make that leap to that standard of player though. Realistically even if we kept on progressing at the rate we hope you're probably talking 3/4 years before we get to that level. That's assuming we manage to break the top 4

 

[jonnyboy316]

I did like the way he again pressured the board to keep spending by saying 'if we want to move to the next level we need a striker'.

I mean we can all see it, but he's making it very clear.

Yes but at the same time they have already backed him heavily by paying over the odds for Gylfi and I suspect Koeman would have been the driving force behind the Klassen signing. Looks like we would have been better off not signing Klassen, keeping Dowell and then having more cash to address the number 9 vacancy

 

[Brisan123]

It's going to take 5/6 years in my opinion to get to the stage where we are challenging for the title
Let's be honest here
We need to get to top four for CL and that's at least 2/3 years away unless we win the EL
That in itself is a hard enough
United got lucky last year when no big names dropped from CL to EL as had happened in previous years.
If we manage to get CL we may attract the quality of player we need but can we afford them without the new stadium and the money it will attract
I am amazed at how much City have spent and still stayed within FFP , I can't see where the legitimate income is coming from.
United yes because they are global behometh in commercial terms footballing wise. The top 3 are that far ahead of us that it'll be a long process to catch up unless we unearth a couple of worldies in key positions

 

[Brisan123]

Yes but at the same time they have already backed him heavily by paying over the odds for Gylfi and I suspect Koeman would have been the driving force behind the Klassen signing. Looks like we would have been better off not signing Klassen, keeping Dowell and then having more cash to address the number 9 vacancy

Dowell is not ready for PL never mind what Davek says.
Even the Forest fans admit while brilliant at times drifts out of games