Ronald Koeman discussion

[Paul w]

Looks like he has lost the dressing room



From the Telegraph

He said that himself in his press conference.

 

[Mozza1987]

How can a 3-0 drubbing result against a middling Italian side not get you annoyed? Results on top of how bad we look is the problem. We look like that Derby County side from the prem when they only scored like 15 goals all season and had like 10 points.

It does get me annoyed but what concerns me more are the shocking performances. I was more talking about the Chelsea and Spurs games when mentioning difficult fixtures. Obviously we should be hoping for points in every game but the performances were simply unacceptable

 

[roydo]

Looks like he has lost the dressing room



From the Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...-hold-crisis-meeting-evertons-senior-players/

Maybe its the eternal optimist that I am, but I read that the exact opposite.

He has bought in many players, and instead of getting all shirty with them, and calling them out, he is attempting a more collective response to the situation.

But hey, maybe not.

 

[matty1878]

Looks like he has lost the dressing room



From the Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...-hold-crisis-meeting-evertons-senior-players/

No it doesn't ffs. It looks like he can and is trying or will try to fix this rut.

 

[carolinablue232]

It does get me annoyed but what concerns me more are the shocking performances. I was more talking about the Chelsea and Spurs games when mentioning difficult fixtures. Obviously we should be hoping for points in every game but the performances were simply unacceptable

It's all unacceptable. I could deal with the poor play if the results were there. As it is, we're being embarrassed game after game.

 

[kenada_blue]

The collapse of Martinez didn't happen overnight. We'd been shocking for the best part of two seasons under El Fraudo. Koemans situation and Martinez is nothing alike apart from the fact that they're both crap.

Martinez earned his 2nd season after the 1st which should've seen us get Champions League. He stayed in a job for the 3rd because he was getting close to some silverware (2 semi finals)

Neither of these look to be anywhere near Koeman's grasp.

 

[eddy]

Why?

To be honest I just felt like saying it as I am annoyed at our play last night. Koeman deserves time to get things right and the board shafted him
by selling Lukaku promising a replacement and bringing in mediocre players, and a has-been past it, boozer, call girl user, ex united player
Moshiri then called in to say its RK`s team now firmly putting the manager under pressure

That said if we were to knee jerk I was always a fan of Moyes been around the block now with a lot to prove

 

[dublinbluenose]

Maybe its the eternal optimist that I am, but I read that the exact opposite.

He has bought in many players, and instead of getting all shirty with them, and calling them out, he is attempting a more collective response to the situation.

But hey, maybe not.

He's already called them out though, Mirallas for one and slating the players performance and attitude, deservedly admittedly.

Just think calling crisis meetings is the beginning of the end.

 

[carolinablue232]

No it doesn't ffs. It looks like he can and is trying or will try to fix this rut.

Common management technique in all fields when things start going haywire. Get the senior leaders together and sort it out.

 

[Nymzee]

He's not calling anyone out. He said in the presser it's easy to blame the kids but it's the experienced players he wants to talk to about things, the ones who should know better.

 

[JelavicBrate2]

We moved up from 11th to 7th.

Big whoop.

And he dudn't "take us into Europe".....that was down to United beating Saints in the EFL Cup Final.

Jose was more responsible for us being in Europe than Koeman.

Plus we lost to Liverpool twice. Lost at Burnley, Swansea, Watford, Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, and Southampton , some of the worst performances I've seen as an Everton fan. Failed to have 1 shot on goal against West Ham away, when they were conceding goals for fun last season. As I said at end of last season it was an OK season not a good one. We've lost 3 or the 4 talented young players we had under Martinez, with Barkley likely to leave pretty soon, which doesn't fill me with confidence. Ticket prices have gone up, more season tickets sold than ever, and huge amounts of money spent on players to play in the same position and we're still no closer to the top 4.

 

[kenada_blue]

To be honest I just felt like saying it as I am annoyed at our play last night. Koeman deserves time to get things right and the board shafted him
by selling Lukaku promising a replacement and bringing in mediocre players, and a has-been past it, boozer, call girl user, ex united player
Moshiri then called in to say its RK`s team now firmly putting the manager under pressure

That said if we were to knee jerk I was always a fan of Moyes been around the block now with a lot to prove

Erm....they're all Koeman's signings. Main targets he was happy with, even praising the board after they signed. Also saying this is why he left Southampton.

Now...to pin the whole failure on the board for not signing 1 player, after you've signed 7 players for £150million and not getting a tune out of them doesn't wash with me.

It's why Koeman gets paid £7mill a year.

 

[dublinbluenose]

Common management technique in all fields when things start going haywire. Get the senior leaders together and sort it out.

In football this is usually called a training session.

 

[sheedys left foot]

Jags said today that the fans should judge the team after ten games. By my reckoning we've played 9 so is it ok to judge them after Sunday's defeat to united?

Really can't take to koeman and his team is a reflection of him. Boring, slow and no shape.

 

[TonyT65]

The collapse of Martinez didn't happen overnight. We'd been shocking for the best part of two seasons under El Fraudo. Koemans situation and Martinez is nothing alike apart from the fact that they're both crap.

Yeah but he was never getting sacked by BK mate - remember "What a manager! "
A defeat by manure may not be the end of the world but if the performance is similar and then we don't beat Sunderland it's gunna get interesting.,
To be honest - if he gets the boot, it'll be a sign that there is other investment available in the near future. From North London / Russia maybe.