Ronald Koeman discussion

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You all want Koeman out on the back of 5 Premier League games against 4 of the best sides in the division. The more I think about it the crazier it gets. If we were languishing in the bottom 3 during November then I'd completely understand but we are so far away from that.
The football is pants that's why!
Even playing the lower side scraping wins it was pants ok!
 

No, it's the complete and utter lack of, balance, pace and joined up football.

Plus it's looking more and more likely he's wasted our biggest ever transfer budget on a load of lemons.

It's the footballing equivalent of crossing Mike Walker and Walter Smith.

Clueless, dull and self destructive football.

See where we are later on in the season hey. Good sides like Spurs, Chelsea and United tend to exploit your weaknesses better than others. They caught us at a horrible time. I would be shocked that if by the end of November we are not comfortably in the top 10 with the prospect of a striker joining us and a good second half in the offing.
 

I would absolutely love to see the likes of Bournemouth and Burnley come to Goodison and play their high line. It's just not going to happen. Not a chance.
Do you not watch a lot of football mate? Bournemouth have played a high line against us for the last 2 years when we've had Lukaku and Barkley running at them, I don't think they're likely to start bricking it that Sigurdsson and Rooney are going to motor past them on the half way line.
 
Do you not watch a lot of football mate? Bournemouth have played a high line against us for the last 2 years when we've had Lukaku and Barkley running at them, I don't think they're likely to start bricking it that Sigurdsson and Rooney are going to motor past them on the half way line.

Honestly, I hope you're right. Any average team that comes to Goodison and tries to take the game to us is fine by me.

We have better players. The majority of the time we will win.
 

Probably nowhere near as long ago as you think. When there's only 19 other teams in the league, and you count 6 of them as impossible to beat, it's not unlikely to have a run of difficult games like that.

In Martinez's last season we had 3 similar sequences. A run of City (a) Spurs (a) Chelsea (h) from which we got 4 points. Then we played 2 more games before a run of Liverpool (h) and then United and Arsenal (a) which yielded 1 point. Later in the season we played Spurs (h) then City and Chelsea (a), drawing all 3 games. That run was interrupted by a cup game at home to City, which we won.
Not saying they are impossible but should be seen as bonus points. Also need to take into account bedding in 8 new players at the start of the season when playing them.

What is shocking though is how bad the Martinez last season was. He got 8 points from the games you say which means he only got 36 points against everyone else in 25 games. That is truly dreadful. Can't see us ever being that bad again.
 
Honestly, I hope you're right. Any average team that comes to Goodison and tries to take the game to us is fine by me.

We have better players. The majority of the time we will win.
Maybe, i'm not so sure.

I'm not being all doom and gloom, because I agree we have better players. Unfortunately I'm not sure that we have the balance or the attacking threat to worry teams though, and if we go a goal down and the crowd gets restless, I'm not sure we have enough to turn it round. I said it at the time, don't underestimate the difference Lukaku made to just blowing teams away at home last year. We look like we'll really struggle to score a lot of goals and that takes it's toll on players. Go 1-0 down and suddenly the players start wondering whether they've got enough to win the game.
 

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