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Ronald Koeman discussion

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willo30 said:
How is history repeating itself? When was the last time we had a run of fixtures like the last 4?
If these results had been scattered around the season and we were beating everyone else then we wouldn't see the fume we seeing now.

We've been beaten by 4 sides clearly better than us. The last game gave me hope with the way we played and he is trying different things to get a goal with his late subs at MU but it's not his fault Williams drops a clanger and they also get a dubious penalty.

We play how we played Sunday in the next 3 then 9 points are nailed on. Probably see us in the top 7.
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Probably nowhere near as long ago as you think. When there's only 19 other teams in the league, and you count 6 of them as impossible to beat, it's not unlikely to have a run of difficult games like that.

In Martinez's last season we had 3 similar sequences. A run of City (a) Spurs (a) Chelsea (h) from which we got 4 points. Then we played 2 more games before a run of Liverpool (h) and then United and Arsenal (a) which yielded 1 point. Later in the season we played Spurs (h) then City and Chelsea (a), drawing all 3 games. That run was interrupted by a cup game at home to City, which we won.
 
dannyboy said:
You all want Koeman out on the back of 5 Premier League games against 4 of the best sides in the division. The more I think about it the crazier it gets. If we were languishing in the bottom 3 during November then I'd completely understand but we are so far away from that.
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The football is pants that's why!
Even playing the lower side scraping wins it was pants ok!
 
COYBL25 said:
No, it's the complete and utter lack of, balance, pace and joined up football.

Plus it's looking more and more likely he's wasted our biggest ever transfer budget on a load of lemons.

It's the footballing equivalent of crossing Mike Walker and Walter Smith.

Clueless, dull and self destructive football.
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See where we are later on in the season hey. Good sides like Spurs, Chelsea and United tend to exploit your weaknesses better than others. They caught us at a horrible time. I would be shocked that if by the end of November we are not comfortably in the top 10 with the prospect of a striker joining us and a good second half in the offing.
 

dannyboy said:
I would absolutely love to see the likes of Bournemouth and Burnley come to Goodison and play their high line. It's just not going to happen. Not a chance.
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Do you not watch a lot of football mate? Bournemouth have played a high line against us for the last 2 years when we've had Lukaku and Barkley running at them, I don't think they're likely to start bricking it that Sigurdsson and Rooney are going to motor past them on the half way line.
 

Lanolin said:
Do you not watch a lot of football mate? Bournemouth have played a high line against us for the last 2 years when we've had Lukaku and Barkley running at them, I don't think they're likely to start bricking it that Sigurdsson and Rooney are going to motor past them on the half way line.
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Honestly, I hope you're right. Any average team that comes to Goodison and tries to take the game to us is fine by me.

We have better players. The majority of the time we will win.
 
Lanolin said:
Probably nowhere near as long ago as you think. When there's only 19 other teams in the league, and you count 6 of them as impossible to beat, it's not unlikely to have a run of difficult games like that.

In Martinez's last season we had 3 similar sequences. A run of City (a) Spurs (a) Chelsea (h) from which we got 4 points. Then we played 2 more games before a run of Liverpool (h) and then United and Arsenal (a) which yielded 1 point. Later in the season we played Spurs (h) then City and Chelsea (a), drawing all 3 games. That run was interrupted by a cup game at home to City, which we won.
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Not saying they are impossible but should be seen as bonus points. Also need to take into account bedding in 8 new players at the start of the season when playing them.

What is shocking though is how bad the Martinez last season was. He got 8 points from the games you say which means he only got 36 points against everyone else in 25 games. That is truly dreadful. Can't see us ever being that bad again.
 

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