Ronald Koeman discussion

[diggerdestroyer]

You can get away with playing well and losing, or not playing well and scraping results. You can’t get away with insipid performances and awful results.

Yep. 100 percent. Woeful performances will not keep him in the job. Its the worst i have seen everton play for a long long time.

 

[Darth Toffeeman]

I've heard he doesn't know what clubs to use for each shot, so just mixes it up and hopes for the best.

Probably just has a bag full of 10 irons.
Even for putting.

 

[faddy the blue]

if you believe that anything positive will come out of that lot today mate you must be mad, we are absolutely rubbish, we have bought garbage, we have a manager who has no idea how to organise a team defensively or from an attacking perspective,the crowd at Goodison are apathetic towards it. Why? because it is normal for us to be [Poor language removed], we have been for years, an absolute joke of a football club happy to be miles behind everyone else...what a pointless organisation

None of us believed the players were garbage when we were signing them.

Koeman improved our defence last season by a mile. Its there to see.

We lost Coleman, didn't replace him. That was wrong.

We did not strengthen the LB and CB area either and are paying for our lack of depth there. Last season we were lucky we didn't had a settled defence.

This form of our has been horrendous. Some of our big players are playing like a shadow of themselves. Its a very difficult moment. Koeman needs to improve his tactics and management and the players need to up their game. I'd prefer Gibson over Schniderlim at this time cos of his forward intent.

Unless we are sure we have a definite plan if we sack him, I say we stick together and ride out the storm.

 

[summerisle]

There's a plot?

Some Continental arrives with the intention of ruining Everton as an footballing institution. Miss Marple is hired to investigate but finds nobody in the Club cares, has a cup of tea and a scone, and leaves.

 

[Woolly Blue]

Most of that down to the striking quality of Mane and Lukaku. One he fell out with and the other he suggested should leave last October.

He got lucky with Van Dyke too.

He has just rolled the dice with the Summer signings and it's an absolute shambles.

Not getting near 6th this season that is for sure.

Aye, there's some truth in what you say there, and maybe he got lucky with having those three players, but I can't really think of a manager who would have done substantially better than what he did with those players. People will throw names out like they're all of a sudden, experts in appointing managers, but the reality is that we're all hurting cos we're playing awful at the moment, so we'll just hit out at the nearest inanimate object.

To be fair, it would be hard to miss Koeman, there's a lot of him to hit.

 

[ijjysmith]

The main question is...

Has @ijjysmith jumped ship yet?

Oh god yes.

I can be easily pleased with playing crap and winning. But playing crap like this, not winning and really not seeing any hope.
I’m onboard.

But can’t see him going.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

No...please don't 0verrated pile of....Oh but he's foreign so he must be good !!

Next Bayern manager.

 

[kenada_blue]

Man City have sacked managers who won the league because better were available.

I am disgusted that he is still Everton manager after the shambles that has been in full flow since last April!

Bingo.

We all praised him last season for this no nonsense, brutally honest manager, and this new Everton that means business.

Well he's spent £200mill and we're going backwards. Time for the club to act like a big club

 

[Abraders]

Bingo.

We all praised him last season for this no nonsense, brutally honest manager, and this new Everton that means business.

Well he's spent £200mill and we're going backwards. Time for the club to act like a big club

And he's not being this brutally honest manager either.

 

[Caolam]

While we didn't buy well in the last window, no centre half or centre forward in particular, but the players we have are better than the team. It is the sum of the total is less than the sum of the parts.
Koeman needs to get a grip on things very quickly as they are starting to get away from him. My fear now is that the players are not going to want to play for us, we will find it very difficult to attract quality.

 

[Toffeeslam]

Koeman now 5/6 to get the chop after that, it's coming unless he has a huge result for him

 

[technojoe]

Its still early days. I do think he'll be given the chance to turn this around but if the players want him out its curtains for him.

 

[bicycleheader]

The honest answer at the moment mate is no, but that is the same for the vast majority of managers. Very few of them can put a team together which is better than the sum of it's parts, and when it does happen, then even fewer of them can keep it going.

We could fire Koeman tomorrow and appoint Unsworth or someone else, but we'd likely be having much the same conversation in two or three years time.

the difference though us we may get a manager who gives us belief that we MAY take that next step. we currently have a manager who IMO is almost a guarantee that we wont.

Im just bloody bored with this crap choice the club made and would prefer get some excitement back in the club.

 

[Nymzee]

Oh god yes.

I can be easily pleased with playing crap and winning. But playing crap like this, not winning and really not seeing any hope.
I’m onboard.

But can’t see him going.

You were my barometer of when to panic.

 

[ijjysmith]

You were my barometer of when to panic.

Uh oh