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Ronald Koeman unravelled: The man behind Everton's best start since 1978
EVERTON had just pulled up at their team base ahead of Ronald Koeman’s first match in charge when the clearest sign arrived that life under him was going to be different.
By PAUL JOYCE
PUBLISHED: 22:00, Mon, Sep 19, 2016
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It was meal time at a hotel outside Barnsley where the pre-season programme was beginning, and the Dutchman expected his squad would be sitting down to eat.

As staff scurried round trying to get food on the table, Koeman’s blood pressure began to boil. He was told the delay would be two minutes. Five then elapsed and the meal still was not ready.

Roberto Martinez was not one for confrontation, preferring to shush those players willing to speak out in the dressing room following a defeat rather than allowing debate to rage.

His successor did little to disguise his unhappiness; making plain his anger and voicing his upset in a manner which confirmed to those in the vicinity the outlook was changing.

The rumpus was not for effect. Koeman is a stickler for timekeeping, insistent everything is done in a certain way, and from that moment on Everton’s players realised they would be conforming to a new set of rules.

Pre-season training had already been brought forward by three days to July 4 and 9am starts, not 10am, at Finch Farm were made compulsory. The school run was out and hard work in.

“Anyone looking for love found out it wasn’t going to be here,” said one staff member.

In isolation, it might seem a trivial episode but it was one which helped embellish the aura that Koeman exudes around Goodison Park.

It is no coincidence that Everton, in EFL Cup action against Norwich on Tuesday, have made their best start to a season since 1978.

The approach is hardline, but underpinned by honesty which ensures his players know exactly where they stand when the dressing room felt there was too much cloak-and-dagger towards the end of Martinez’s reign.

This was not always the case.

When Martinez pushed the responsibility for gym work, and recovery sessions, onto his players it was initially embraced as a manager putting his trust in his charges.

When apathy set in, however, the practice was open to abuse. Corners were cut. There are no such loopholes under Koeman. Everything is done as a group, instilling a sense of team-work rather than promoting the individual.

Everton’s matchday routine has changed markedly.

For a home game, the squad is expected to arrive at 11.30am for a 3pm kick-off and be sitting down together at 12 noon for a meal in the players’ lounge at Goodison Park. Previously they ate at Finch Farm.

An in-depth team meeting then follows for the starting XI and the substitutes. Those not in the 18-man squad are excluded.

The amount of people milling around the tunnel on match-days is also now kept to a minimum which is a theme continued at the training ground. Where previously a dressing room overflowed with support staff, so Koeman has cleared it out ensuring only his technical staff – such as brother, Erwin, Jan Kluitenberg, Duncan Ferguson, David Unsworth, John Ebbrell and goalkeeping coach Patrick Lodewijks – get changed together now.

It may have felt harsh to those who had grown accustomed to life in the bosom of the first team, but it serves merely as a reflection of Koeman’s clinical attitude.

He is a man who keeps conversation to a minimum – lunch is served when he says “buon appetito” and no one eats before then – with Erwin more hands-on during training which is shorter but more intense. Everton look fitter, Koeman has estimated the players have lost around 8lbs on last season, although that may also be due to fitness coach Kluitenberg banning the homemade lemon drizzle cake that was favourite in the canteen.

There is a sense that Koeman is a coach who comes alive on matchday and he is not someone who lives and breathes Everton in the same way as David Moyes and Martinez did.

His Aston Martin is more likely to be found leaving the training ground at nearer to 4pm than 8pm.

Days off are sacrosanct. Last week he went mountain biking with Kluitenberg, but Koeman’s love of golf means he considered staying at Formby Hall, about 30 minutes from Finch Farm, when he first arrived at the club in June only for the venue, popular for weddings, to be deemed too busy. He is now living in Alderley Edge in Cheshire with Erwin, in contrast, residing in Liverpool city centre.

How long Koeman remains at Goodison Park remains to be seen. The ambition fuelled during stellar playing career can be seen in his eyes, yet he is proving to be exactly what Everton needed.

A manager whose tactical acumen and willingness to make changes turns defeats into wins, draws into victories, and whose plain speaking is an antidote to the sunny-side-up appraisals of his predecessor.

The sight of the Premier League table, and the buzz around Goodison, shows Everton are enjoying less words and more action.

@davek
Ha Ha. What's this you're rubbing my nose in? A Kopite channelling Great British Bake Off as an explanation for Koeman's "success". Well in Ronald, giving some kids on zero hours contracts in a poxy Barnsley Hotel some stick for not having the dinner ready for the pampered tits.

Btw, noted that he doesn't put the hours in at FF and gets an early dart for his golf. Do as I say not as I do. When the brown stuff hits the fan that'll be seized on as a vice not a virtue.
 
Ha Ha. What's this you're rubbing my nose in? A Kopite channelling Great British Bake Off as an explanation for Koeman's "success". Well in Ronald, giving some kids on zero hours contracts in a poxy Barnsley Hotel some stick for not having the dinner ready for the pampered tits.

Btw, noted that he doesn't put the hours in at FF and gets an early dart for his golf. Do as I say not as I do. When the brown stuff hits the fan that'll be seized on as a vice not a virtue.

Get on the train David or stay at the station.
 
Ronald Koeman unravelled: The man behind Everton's best start since 1978
EVERTON had just pulled up at their team base ahead of Ronald Koeman’s first match in charge when the clearest sign arrived that life under him was going to be different.
By PAUL JOYCE
PUBLISHED: 22:00, Mon, Sep 19, 2016
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tw.png

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m.png

sh.png

3

It was meal time at a hotel outside Barnsley where the pre-season programme was beginning, and the Dutchman expected his squad would be sitting down to eat.

As staff scurried round trying to get food on the table, Koeman’s blood pressure began to boil. He was told the delay would be two minutes. Five then elapsed and the meal still was not ready.

Roberto Martinez was not one for confrontation, preferring to shush those players willing to speak out in the dressing room following a defeat rather than allowing debate to rage.

His successor did little to disguise his unhappiness; making plain his anger and voicing his upset in a manner which confirmed to those in the vicinity the outlook was changing.

The rumpus was not for effect. Koeman is a stickler for timekeeping, insistent everything is done in a certain way, and from that moment on Everton’s players realised they would be conforming to a new set of rules.

Pre-season training had already been brought forward by three days to July 4 and 9am starts, not 10am, at Finch Farm were made compulsory. The school run was out and hard work in.

“Anyone looking for love found out it wasn’t going to be here,” said one staff member.

In isolation, it might seem a trivial episode but it was one which helped embellish the aura that Koeman exudes around Goodison Park.

It is no coincidence that Everton, in EFL Cup action against Norwich on Tuesday, have made their best start to a season since 1978.

The approach is hardline, but underpinned by honesty which ensures his players know exactly where they stand when the dressing room felt there was too much cloak-and-dagger towards the end of Martinez’s reign.

This was not always the case.

When Martinez pushed the responsibility for gym work, and recovery sessions, onto his players it was initially embraced as a manager putting his trust in his charges.

When apathy set in, however, the practice was open to abuse. Corners were cut. There are no such loopholes under Koeman. Everything is done as a group, instilling a sense of team-work rather than promoting the individual.

Everton’s matchday routine has changed markedly.

For a home game, the squad is expected to arrive at 11.30am for a 3pm kick-off and be sitting down together at 12 noon for a meal in the players’ lounge at Goodison Park. Previously they ate at Finch Farm.

An in-depth team meeting then follows for the starting XI and the substitutes. Those not in the 18-man squad are excluded.

The amount of people milling around the tunnel on match-days is also now kept to a minimum which is a theme continued at the training ground. Where previously a dressing room overflowed with support staff, so Koeman has cleared it out ensuring only his technical staff – such as brother, Erwin, Jan Kluitenberg, Duncan Ferguson, David Unsworth, John Ebbrell and goalkeeping coach Patrick Lodewijks – get changed together now.

It may have felt harsh to those who had grown accustomed to life in the bosom of the first team, but it serves merely as a reflection of Koeman’s clinical attitude.

He is a man who keeps conversation to a minimum – lunch is served when he says “buon appetito” and no one eats before then – with Erwin more hands-on during training which is shorter but more intense. Everton look fitter, Koeman has estimated the players have lost around 8lbs on last season, although that may also be due to fitness coach Kluitenberg banning the homemade lemon drizzle cake that was favourite in the canteen.

There is a sense that Koeman is a coach who comes alive on matchday and he is not someone who lives and breathes Everton in the same way as David Moyes and Martinez did.

His Aston Martin is more likely to be found leaving the training ground at nearer to 4pm than 8pm.

Days off are sacrosanct. Last week he went mountain biking with Kluitenberg, but Koeman’s love of golf means he considered staying at Formby Hall, about 30 minutes from Finch Farm, when he first arrived at the club in June only for the venue, popular for weddings, to be deemed too busy. He is now living in Alderley Edge in Cheshire with Erwin, in contrast, residing in Liverpool city centre.

How long Koeman remains at Goodison Park remains to be seen. The ambition fuelled during stellar playing career can be seen in his eyes, yet he is proving to be exactly what Everton needed.

A manager whose tactical acumen and willingness to make changes turns defeats into wins, draws into victories, and whose plain speaking is an antidote to the sunny-side-up appraisals of his predecessor.

The sight of the Premier League table, and the buzz around Goodison, shows Everton are enjoying less words and more action.

@davek

Interesting article that. Thanks for posting.
 
Ha Ha. What's this you're rubbing my nose in? A Kopite channelling Great British Bake Off as an explanation for Koeman's "success". Well in Ronald, giving some kids on zero hours contracts in a poxy Barnsley Hotel some stick for not having the dinner ready for the pampered tits.

Btw, noted that he doesn't put the hours in at FF and gets an early dart for his golf. Do as I say not as I do. When the brown stuff hits the fan that'll be seized on as a vice not a virtue.
That's not wrong.
3 losses in a row and people will be saying he doesn't care enough about the club. And the story about the lunch is a bit weird. Holding professional footballers accountable doesn't mean you have to be a tool to your wait staff.

But hey, ho, if we win, I'm in.
 

Ha Ha. What's this you're rubbing my nose in? A Kopite channelling Great British Bake Off as an explanation for Koeman's "success". Well in Ronald, giving some kids on zero hours contracts in a poxy Barnsley Hotel some stick for not having the dinner ready for the pampered tits.

Btw, noted that he doesn't put the hours in at FF and gets an early dart for his golf. Do as I say not as I do. When the brown stuff hits the fan that'll be seized on as a vice not a virtue.

It just means Goat identifies with people who don't want to wait for lunch
 
This reminds me of the start we had during Roberto's first season before it all unraveled in the second and third seasons of his reign.The real test for Koeman will be keeping the players motivated and performing when the novelty factor of a new manager wears off.People say that were only beating poor teams but im not bothered about that.Were beating the teams we should be beating which we weren't doing under the last regime.It's getting maximum points against the Sunderlands and Boros of this league on a regular basis that will give you a strong platform going forward.We won't know more about ourselves until we play the likes of Man City and Chelsea etc but if we can claim a few big scalps and keep cleaning up against the garbage teams then who knows what we can achieve.We should have no problem securing our minimum target of a Europa league spot anyway.
 
Just one more thing how refreshing it is to hear Koeman talk about how a house needs solid foundations and the foundation for a teams success is the defence.I know Martinez had his loyal defenders on here to the very end but i think it's fair to say that the vast majority of us are thinking.Finally a manager who speaks our language!
 
Just one more thing how refreshing it is to hear Koeman talk about how a house needs solid foundations and the foundation for a teams success is the defence.I know Martinez had his loyal defenders on here to the very end but i think it's fair to say that the vast majority of us are thinking.Finally a manager who speaks our language!
I challenge you to name more than 1.
 

That's not wrong.
3 losses in a row and people will be saying he doesn't care enough about the club. And the story about the lunch is a bit weird. Holding professional footballers accountable doesn't mean you have to be a tool to your wait staff.

But hey, ho, if we win, I'm in.

Don't think it was that as much as he'd been promised a certain time, and those promises/standards weren't met. It's an analogy more than anything.

Thought it was a good read. I don't think anybody is under the impression that he's here for the love of the club.

But neither was RM, or Moyes.

They just have different techniques on how they operate.

We needed someone like Koeman to come in after the farce in the last few months of the season. It's done everybody a world of good.
 

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