Ronald Koeman discussion

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Can't think of one logic replacement( and I mean by that who would come no pie in the sky name)

I think unsworth would get a reaction. he's instill some confidence by playing with a formation that suits the players, and he can also utilize the youth players he feels would be able to make the step up.

I do not think he is right for the job fulltime, and would struggle going up against the top teams.

I do think he would stabilize us.

where we go from there I don't know.
 
I think unsworth would get a reaction. he's instill some confidence by playing with a formation that suits the players, and he can also utilize the youth players he feels would be able to make the step up.

I do not think he is right for the job fulltime, and would struggle going up against the top teams.

I do think he would stabilize us.

where we go from there I don't know.

I don't get this mate tbh. Yearh a new manager usually has a good little honeymoon spell before they go kak again but it's a huge huge step up and if it goes wrong we're doomed.
 
I don't get this mate tbh. Yearh a new manager usually has a good little honeymoon spell before they go kak again but it's a huge huge step up and if it goes wrong we're doomed.

I think its obv the players have 'almost' downed tools regards koeman and his tactics.

unsy would come in, get the players on side again and get them performing to 100% again, that in itself would be enough to beat the lesser teams with the quality we have.

at present the players have no heart in it.
 

I'm a season ticket holder who goes home and most aways. I support the team.

But what I'm seeing this season doesn't even resemble football.

it needs changing and quick, because as it is, we are going down.

that isn't just me bedwetting, the form table shows exactly what we are like, and I don't think this team, set up as it is, is capable of beating any other premier league team.
sry mate didnt mean to come off as you being less of a fan or not worthy of an opinion. I personally will give Koeman to end of the January window to adjust. I think it's clear he wanted more bodies in the squad that for whatever reason wasn't able to get, not that it excuses the performance but imo should at least justify him being able to complete his vision before we ditch him.
 
I think its obv the players have 'almost' downed tools regards koeman and his tactics.

unsy would come in, get the players on side again and get them performing to 100% again, that in itself would be enough to beat the lesser teams with the quality we have.

at present the players have no heart in it.

So basically we're relying on a a manager with one game experience against an already relegated team in a hard league to keep us up? To much risk in my eyes if it was my choice. I don't know who the answer is but unsworth for me is to to risky
 
Didn't say you had dear...

To be honest right now I'm feeling 'not bothered' but on the day lets see if that changes...late nights to watch this tosh and a useless manager.

I feel sorry for those match goers who also attend away games...

I used to love away games myself...id be one of those going when we were rubbish...

We’ve all sat through absolute bilge, going a full year without winning away from spending all those hours and cash seeing your team embarrassed, seeing QPR, Norwich, Coventry come hear to tear you to shreds at Goodison.

But not once did I hope we’d lose any of those dreadful days out to see a manager get canned
 

Well, that sure is a novel way of looking at it but I see the logic in it....sort of :)

Which begs the question how much time Ronald is to be given, considering we appear to be on the verge of freefalling into the relegation zone when play commences again after this darned international break.

At the moment, I cannot see us beating Brighton and then we have Arsenal at home, a match we know the head honcho at the club dies not "expect" to win.

And there lies the big difference between then and now, Chris.

Even Peter Johnson had did not limit his vision to us only being "expected" to win certain games :(

I have no doubt Koeman will limp along, so long as we are not in the bottom six when the relegation dogfight begins in earnest.

Because it appears now that merely staying in the EPL is the brief he was given by Moshiri :(

And that us why it is mad anyone actually wanting us to lose in order to oust Koeman.

He will be gone in May anyway....so let's hood we are still in the top flight when he does :pint2:

I’m sorry khal but that’s pretty tosh. Where is this brief that it’s PL survival?? Is this after he sent £150m on transfers and increased our wage budget dramatically. Bit of an overkill to stay in the PL?

We’ll smash Brighton and then smash those jarg cockney total football weapons and Ty can start crying into his Arsenal memorabilia again
 
Sadly the signs were there some years ago about just how much of a helmet Ronald is, we just chose to ignore them.

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I think unsworth would get a reaction. he's instill some confidence by playing with a formation that suits the players, and he can also utilize the youth players he feels would be able to make the step up.

I do not think he is right for the job fulltime, and would struggle going up against the top teams.

I do think he would stabilize us.

where we go from there I don't know.

Credit where it's due here too, an U23 squad is under constant disruption compared to the first team, yet he still manages to put out a team that works.
 
You make some very valid points there mate.

However without comparing the current games won, lost, drawn, points etc to the short lived Walker reign, the way the team are currently playing is so similar to his team it's frightening.

The team appears to have collapsed, same as Walkers.

It's like watching a kids footy match, where some of the kids just stop playing after the fifth goal goes in against them.

The realty is that we're in a lot of trouble and I don't think Koeman is the man to get us out of it, having got us into it in the first place.

We had exactly the same issue at the start of last season, struggling to create chances. In fact in a couple of games we didn’t have a shot until the second half, and that was with the all singing all dancing snake that everyone is still crying into their pillows over

I’m not saying the team isn’t playing bad at all, because they are. What I have an issue with is that there will be a number of so called “Evertonians” who’ll secretly be sitting at home hoping we get beat. And if we do, come straight on here and starts pouting the usual drivel before telling us all what manager we should be going after, or what formation we should’ve playing, or what kids should be promoted from the youth setup.

The closest these people have come to playing football is sitting on their virgin arses playing Fifa whilst knocking one off into a sock and sniffing their sisters thongs
 
I’m sorry khal but that’s pretty tosh. Where is this brief that it’s PL survival?? Is this after he sent £150m on transfers and increased our wage budget dramatically. Bit of an overkill to stay in the PL?

We’ll smash Brighton and then smash those jarg cockney total football weapons and Ty can start crying into his Arsenal memorabilia again


Well, that's just what I think, Chris.

I am not one of the "net spend" brigade but practically all the money we have spent since Koeman's arrival had been recouped by sales....it would have all been recouped but for Ross changing his mind and Oumar's agent getting greedy.

Koeman himself has alluded to this fact in several of his post match interviews and FF press conferences.

So although the £150 million looks good on paper the reality is Mr. Moshiri has not generated a lot of new dough for the transfer kitty.

Now, like everyone else round these parts, you and I know bugger all about the inner machinations of the club so I am merely conjecturing the same as everyone else.

And IMO Moshiri let the cat out the bag this week with his "unexpected defeat" remark so that strikes me like he is a man who is not so much interested in success on the pitch as survival in the EPL and that he is mostly here to fatten the cow, via the club's off field infrastructure, before taking her to market

That's just the way I feel right now.

I could be right.....or I could be wrong :blush:

So anyway.....on the off chance we do not turn our hopeless away form round and "smash the jarg cockneys" nor cause poor ol' Ty to cry into his Charlie George wig, when will you start to think that perhaps Mr. Koeman is not the man for us?

If our position worsens during October then happen the next international break, in November?

That is where my money is riding ;)
 

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