Ronald Koeman discussion

[Ashtonian]

"Romelu will not have made the most of his career if he plays for Everton for the remainder of his career...He has the potential to play for a bigger club than Everton".

He really get's us, doesn't he?

I wonder if the Echo hacks will get their tongues out of his arse for a second to write that up and question it?

what is actually wrong with that?

not exactly going places right now are we, or have been for a long time now. Same as the whole rooney thing was held against him for leaving us, failing to remember our lowest points total in 100 years the season he left.

Think if we stop being so pig headed and singing grand old team to ourselves every day to make us feel better, would a 25 goals a season striker in stoke be seen as too big for the club? Or west brom? Or southampton? Or west ham (payet right now)?

To be perfectly honest, i don't want to be spoon fed niceties by the club, manager, owner or captain. I want to be told how it is, and not be led down a path. If it means Koeman talking up a sale of rom then fine,k we all know he is leaving at some point anyway.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

He was asked a question and answered it truthfully ,it's slightly dispiriting but it's where we are and have been for 30odd years. What doesn't he 'get'? , that we like having our egos massaged and being told we are a phenomenal club a giant on the world stage when we clearly are not.
We all know that Lukaku will move on to better things anyway, but at least he will have given us more time and goals than 'superblue' Rooney when he departs.

 

[brieverton]

I think the comments regarding Lukaku are disappointing from Koeman. It's poor form.

I have praised RK previously for his honesty but what he says in any given situation needs to be judged on its own merits. It should not be, and does not need to be, a complete contrast with Martinez' fake positivity each and every time.

I feel that comments like this just serve as a reminder of our place in the pecking order. You expect that from a kopite tabloid hack, not the incumbent manager.

There is a time and place for a more tactful approach from the manager, it does not require brutal honesty each time. The other lot are the biggest club in the world even when they finish 8th. It's ok for RK to big us up a little, even when it's only justified for keeping up appearances.

 

[mixed_up]

totally in sync with anyone who is a proper evertonian and finds Koeman's stance an insult. eff off back to Southampton where you belong.

I was totally behind him before this. find him a loser now. so much for his tweets and 'proud to be manager of everton'' LIES

Martinez let himself down in the last two seasons but he was never like this.

 

[MikeH72]

totally in sync with anyone who is a proper evertonian and finds Koeman's stance an insult. eff off back to Southampton where you belong.

I was totally behind him before this. find him a loser now. so much for his tweets and 'proud to be manager of everton'' LIES

Martinez let himself down in the last two seasons but he was never like this.

I know mate I wish Koeman was a bit more like Martinez, he could learn a lot from him couldn't he mate.

 

[mixed_up]

what is actually wrong with that?
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what is actually not wrong about it? Koeman out. I hope Moshiri is now sensing he should have gone for Frank De Boer. I will never agree with comments like that. I am sickened. to those that agree.

 

[EFC78]

We all know Rom will be off but strange how you have Moshiri talking us up whilst at the same time the manager talking us down.

Effectively the difference between us and the Kopites, atleast everyone associated with that lot from manager to ex players talk as if Liverpool is the biggest club in the world, whilst I wouldn't be as idiotic as that lot and suggest we are it's hard to see how we are to compete with the top 6 with this plucky attitude.

Yeah it's what separates us, for the better. That lot need their ego's massaging all day every day, it's why they support them.

I don't need our mangers coming out with BS like Martinez did. Everton are not at the level currently that will see Lukaku win trophies or get CL football and therefore I have no issue with what Koeman has said. Not sure he needed to come out with it at the current time, but they are often put on the spot so have to give an answer.

The RS have still not won a league title for 26 years either, despite how great they think they are.

 

[Baines' left foot]

Of course we can become a bigger club than Real and Barca in the next 5 years.

Koeman you negative noo nar numpty!

 

[kithnou]

Ridiculous from Koeman. Somebody get a hold of him and stop this disgraceful commentary.

 

[Mountfield1985]

Unnecessary and ill-advised.

I'm very much pro-RK, and for the most part quite like his bluntness, but there was no need to even answer a question like that at this stage of the season. I expect there is a translation issue here as well but it does come across as quite belittling.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Nothing wrong with what koeman said about rom.

Or do people keep forgetting we are a sell to buy club who struggle to beat the likes of burnley and Bournemouth?

Compared to one of the top clubs in world football, who play at the highest level on a yearly basis?

Sorry mate, I can't defend those comments

There is no justification in my opinion

How on Earth are we supposed to attract players when the manager is talking the club down in such a manner?

He needs to apologise

If Moyes or Martinez had said something similar, they'd've been eviscerated

 

[Moomin]

The truth is simple, Koeman personally thinks he is too good for us. he won't be here after two seasons, probably eyeing up the Arsenal job.

 

[coollino]

But Everton are the family club!!!

 

[Amw79]

Poor this. I like RKs honesty, in comparison to the previous incumbent, and many of us would accept that Rom will likely be off next summer, but RK needs to manage this type of question better. It's poor strategy in terms of attracting players in future windows. Nothing to be gained for Everton in this type of comment, other than in the short term maybe an ego boost to Rom.

Poor interview, which is now bound to be further spun, in line with the express - "RK tells Rom to leave", which while not strictly what he said, is inevitably how some papers will report this. Poor strategy. Very naive.

 

[ijjysmith]

If Moyes or Martinez had said something similar, they'd've been eviscerated

Not that i'm excusing Koeman for what he's said but it's just the exact opposite of what Martinez would have said. Both utterly handled these these wrong but at other ends of the spectrum. Martinez went over the top. Koeman has gone too far the other way really.

Essentially what Koeman has said is totally correct. It just didn't need to have been said.