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Ronald Koeman discussion

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Some dont mate. Some think they're always right and an oppposing view is automatically rubbished. Some are just WUMs and get a kick when you fall for it. Some can be condescending or just outright rud e. Some are just having a laugh. Most are just giving their view and don't mean anything by it. Can be very hard to tell one from another some times.


It would be so much easier if everyone agreed....like North Korea.
 
He didn't though Khal...

He said if Lukaku spends all of his career at Everton, he wouldn't fulfil his potential - which is 100% the case.

We all like to live in this dream world where we rule the roost but the reality is as it stands we're nowhere near that level - Saturday proved that - and while Koeman got it wrong tactically in that game, we were outclassed by a side who will be challenging for the title.


don't think any of us think we rule the roost but we all want whats best for EFC, we pay RK £3m a year to also want the best for us and that doesn't involve telling out star striker you will not fulfil your potential if you stay here...not matter how many other ppl outside the club are saying it
 
Think this was the one for me:

"Here's a manager who really believes in the team he's managing....."
He's the diametric opposite of Martinez and the guff that got on everyones' tits: Dutch international superstar player that achieved pretty much everything in the game calls it as he sees it. Shock horror.

I think he's a realist. Take the Everton goggles off and Lukaku could certainly do better. Yes? Yeah, we want him here but tough titty in the game of today if we cannot help him achieve what he is capable of. Same as Stones, same as Rooney. Are we so shocked?

And he's calling out the current team as also-rans, in need of a rebuild and investment, which based on the gutless debacle we've just had the pleasure to witness at Chelsea is spot on (admittedly, his tactics and selection were too negative IMHO). He's upping the ante for January' and next Summer's investment. If he doesn't get the players he wants to achieve what he wants short term, he'll be off. And fair enough.

I say that as a passionate Everton fan that'll still be paying to watch the Blues and encouraging my kids to do the same, Lukaku or no Lukaku, Koeman or no Koeman.
 

So, Tintin the butcher's boy says Lukaku's better off elsewhere...

Nice one. Watch Lukaku start exaggerating the frustrated gestures that he's been making, no doubt leading to disharmony in the dressing room. You've given him the green light to do so, you complete oaf.

We've already had similar to this before with the scotch egg-bollocked, bolly-eyed presbyterian numpty's pearls of wisdom.

:mad:
 
Which he won't be mate.

But realistically should he keep up his scoring form he'll be bagging 20+ once again this year - for the third-year running, and fourth year out of five in total.

He turns 24 in May...

We all thought he'd be leaving this summer. He didn't, and Lukaku himself has admitted Koeman was a big part of that (though there was also an unwillingness from buying club's to meet our valuation).

If he keeps scoring like we know he can, but if we don't get top 6 (and probably more likely top 4), I don't think that unwillingness will be there come next summer.
I agree. Unless Koeman completely turns the season around I'm certain Rom is on his wag in the summer. He has to go if he hasnt committed to a new contract. And I wouldnt lay the full blame for that with Koeman.

But what I don't want to hear is our manager openly encouraging the player in this and also telling us fans that he should go with our blessing and be grateful that we had him for so long during his development. Thats effectively what written at the weekend. I'm hoping this second article is just a diffrrent slant on the same interview. Otherwise it means he's made two different statements along the same linesand indicates he learned nothing from the first.

This type of talk is probably acceptable behaviour at his previous clubs but not here. He's too bloody honest!!
 
don't think any of us think we rule the roost but we all want whats best for EFC, we pay RK £3m a year to also want the best for us and that doesn't involve telling out star striker you will not fulfil your potential if you stay here...not matter how many other ppl outside the club are saying it

I'm sure he does want the best for the club, even if that is only to better his own career.

He hasn't said Lukaku is leaving. He's said that if Rom fulfills his potential he'll be playing for the big clubs (as in Barca, Real etc)
 
So, Tintin the butcher's boy says Lukaku's better off elsewhere...

Nice one. Watch Lukaku start exaggerating the frustrated gestures that he's been making, no doubt leading to disharmony in the dressing room. You've given him the green light to do so, you complete oaf.

We've already had similar to this before with the scotch egg-bollocked, bolly-eyed presbyterian numpty's pearls of wisdom.

:mad:

He hasn't said Lukaku is better off elsewhere!!!!!!!
 
I agree. Unless Koeman completely turns the season around I'm certain Rom is on his wag in the summer. He has to go if he hasnt committed to a new contract. And I wouldnt lay the full blame for that with Koeman.

But what I don't want to hear is our manager openly encouraging the player in this and also telling us fans that he should go with our blessing and be grateful that we had him for so long during his development. Thats effectively what written at the weekend. I'm hoping this second article is just a diffrrent slant on the same interview. Otherwise it means he's made two different statements along the same linesand indicates he learned nothing from the first.

This type of talk is probably acceptable behaviour at his previous clubs but not here. He's too bloody honest!!
No doubt he will be on his wag but also his way too!!!!
 

don't think any of us think we rule the roost but we all want whats best for EFC, we pay RK £3m a year to also want the best for us and that doesn't involve telling out star striker you will not fulfil your potential if you stay here...not matter how many other ppl outside the club are saying it


Actually he us having £6 million a year off us :Blink:
 
where is the managers ambition for Everton, or does he get paid £6m just to keep Everton on an 'even keel'

No, he is getting paid that money to take us back to where we want to be and were before the last two seasons - a club challenging for the top 7.

That's in the short-term. Baby steps and all that.

Hopefully, by the end of season 2, we're looking at seriously competing for CL. And a trophy should always be on the cards.

But he hasn't dismissed any of that. He's simply said that in other cases of promising young players who are at Lukaku's level, they end up at the likes of Barca, Real Madrid, Bayern etc etc.
 

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