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Ronald Koeman discussion

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Can I rephrase this to what actually happened.

We came out the secondhalf and played less hoof ball and tried to pass it. However we still created the square root of nothing. Then we came to life after taking a humping for 10 minutes when Watford should have scored a 4th.

The fact that I have put "watford" and "4th" says more than enough

It does. We were terrible.
 
Depends do what you regard as "long haul".

This continues much longer Moshiri will have to consider his options.....if for no other reason that his investment will go for a bath if this form is carried on into the new year and we wind up relegated.

He cannot let it get anywhere near that stage without at least thinking of rolling the dice and cutting his losses in the hope a change of managership would give us the boost needed to save the day.

And he will definitely pull the plug on him if we are pretty much in this same state twelve months from now.

IMO Koeman gets to the season end if the ship is steadied and we do in fact stay around mid table.

But if thus dull, tactically clueless stuff continues into next season he won't make Christmas 2017.

Moshiri will have known just as well as anyone when he bought into the club - this wasn't simply a job of a few tweaks and job done. He would have known this was a rebuilding job - management team, squad, stadium.
 
we where actually 2 points below where we where at last season after 15 games mate and got 4 from our next 3 games, our next three are against Arsenal and the rs at Goodison then Leicester away, given our current form and way the players look, very real possibility we will get nothing out those 3 games leaving us 6 points worse off after 18 games than last season, thats a sobering thought

If your facts are right (and I for one, can't be 4rsed checking them), then its beyond 'sobering'.
 
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Depends do what you regard as "long haul".

This continues much longer Moshiri will have to consider his options.....if for no other reason that his investment will go for a bath if this form is carried on into the new year and we wind up relegated.

He cannot let it get anywhere near that stage without at least thinking of rolling the dice and cutting his losses in the hope a change of managership would give us the boost needed to save the day.

And he will definitely pull the plug on him if we are pretty much in this same state twelve months from now.

IMO Koeman gets to the season end if the ship is steadied and we do in fact stay around mid table.

But if thus dull, tactically clueless stuff continues into next season he won't make Christmas 2017.

carries on like this K and a week on Monday he could be given the boot. Shocking managerial performance so far, no excuses as it's simply not acceptable and the buck stops with him.
 

he had a very similar run at S'ton last year and turned it around on boxing day Khal.

He is a good manager.

I have seen this fact stated on here many times Toff, but it neither impresses nor re-assures me.

In fact it is quite worrisome to me that a manager seems to make a habit of supervising long bad streaks followed by a good run.

IMO that is not the sign of a "good manager" at all.

If nowt else, he is always either in freefall or playing catch up :(

Sorry, pal.....I am finding it very hard to see any redeeming features in Mr. Koeman's managerial skills right now and am starting to think Mr. Mo has made a very expensive mistake :(
 
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He's definitely failed in his first task, which was to get these players playing how he wants. That hasn't happened. Next task is to get players in that want to play for him and to his style (whatever that might be). Earliest that can happen is January, but more realistically it'll be the summer.
I'm not convinced by him by a long way. But, I've had it with this group too. Where's their professional pride? They're 'supposed' to be good players. You'd think they'd be busting a gut to stay at the club. Obviously not. Its a close call either way, but he'll be given 2 windows at least to change things around.
 
Are we still happy to give this guy £100 million if we even have it? I think the players he bought in the summer have been crap with the exception of Gana,
Cant see a plan with what he wants to do? shape is wrong but he keeps persisting with it, really poor to watch
 
What was that nonsense he came out with in the post match interview? it's like we send our managers on a weird management training course when they first arrive.
 
I have seen this fact stated on here many times Toff, but it neither impresses nor re-assures me.

In fact it is quite worrisome to me that a manager seems to make a habit of supervising long bad streaks followed by a good run.

IMO that is not the sign of a "good manager" at all.

If nowt else, he is alwayseither in freefall or playing catch up :(

Sorry, pal.....I am finding it very hard to see any redeeming features in Mr. Koeman's managerial skills right now and am starting to think Mr. Mo has made a very expensive mistake :(

It's an awful run. Nobody is disputing that.

However, it happens - look at Mourinho last year with Chelsea for example.

Koeman has a lot of work to do. There's things that he isn't to blame for (the crap - and it is crap - squad he was left as an example) but there's other things that he should have changed that he hasn't.

Only he knows the reason for that. But equally so I've never known a fanbase to be so ready to turn on a new boss - which you can't deny Evertonians have been - especially one that has inherited a side that is fundamentally a midtable one.

If results don't improve sharpish - especially when he's had another window - then there'll be rightly questions asked. Atm he needs to do certain things IMO that may help us have a bit more proactivity when we play.
 

What was that nonsense he came out with in the post match interview? it's like we send our managers on a weird management training course when they first arrive.

He said we needed to kick-on from when we scored but didn't, and then only reacted in the last 10 minutes.

What's nonsensical about that pal?
 
Koeman does not seem to have improved a single player who was here when he arrived. I would have thought that a supposed better manager than Martinez would have been able to galvanise at least some of them to put a shift in. Seems not. He doesn't look like a significant up-grade in any way to me. Our style of football has regressed and is now the worst I can remember for a long time.
 
I have seen this fact stated on here many times Toff, but it neither impresses nor re-assures me.

In fact it is quite worrisome to me that a manager seems to make a habit of supervising long bad streaks followed by a good run.

IMO that is not the sign of a "good manager" at all.

If nowt else, he is alwayseither in freefall or playing catch up :(

Sorry, pal.....I am finding it very hard to see any redeeming features in Mr. Koeman's managerial skills right now and am starting to think Mr. Mo has made a very expensive mistake :(
A bit like how Martinez being crap meant that he was just waiting for his Kendall half-time team talk moment.

Koeman having poor runs at Southampton doesn't fill me with confidence at all. This is a completely different set of players.
 

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