Ronald Koeman discussion

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mkrudden said:
Tbh, I'd bet on this too as his words post game.

Because that's all we see. Poor performance, followed by public slaughtering, they then come out bursting to the seams like against Liverpool and then... when they need a game plan to execute.... now they've kicked the oppo to a pulp... and they've got nothing.

Blame the manager.
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I absolutely do blame Roberto Martinez yes.
 

Brennan said:
We were 11th after 20 games last season. Under Koeman we're 7th. The latter has only had half a transfer window which the club utterly ballsed up. Martinez had four windows to get us 11th after half a season.

If you look up the table at the six sides above us, do you think we have the squad to compete with them ?
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No which is why I emphasised that I expected us to be in the same position.
We have 3 more points than Bobby had last season but, in both cups put together, we managed to beat Yeovil before pitiful capitulations at home, one to a championship team compared to the semis of both cups last term.
It's clear, thus far, RK is doing no better than Bobby was this time last season and as I perceived Bobby to have being doing poorly then, I'm simply being consistent in applying the same judgement now.
 

davek said:
Evertone in football (including our Sky critics like Merson etc) credited Martinez's Everton with creative football. Lets not try and rewrite history.
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In his first season , this was true . Free-flowing attacking football, free kicks flying into top corners , 30+ attempts on goal each match . So why did the genius Martinez change to " Pass the ball around in our own half for 20 mins " . If we had a FK within shooting distance the ball ended up back with Tim Howard ffs . I'm not saying we've improved a lot . But you can't deny Martinez' philosophy gave us football that was 'kin boring the last two seasons
 
ToffeeTim said:
Anyone giving Koeman grief wind your neck in. What manager in the world is gonna win things with these utter frauds we have.

It's not fun, it's very frustrating, but Koeman is not the problem. Koeman is the answer to the problem.

The board need to back him and the fans need to back him as he starts culling the overpaid, pathetic deadwood.
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How can some poster used the fraud RM (a terrible manager) as a source to attack Koeman in every aspect? Get over it RM won nothing at Everton and failed miserably in the league.
 
Caolam said:
Koeman inherited a pile of sh#t, and more problematical is that pile of sh#t think they are top class players who feel they don't need to roll their sleeves up and compete for the people who come to watch them and help pay their wages.
This window will speak volumes for our future, if we get Schneiderlin, Depay and the Roma centre half then we can start to look forward. If we get a partner for Lukaku and a goalkeeper then maybe we can do something this season in regard to a Europa Cup place. If we get that place then we need to clear the decks of the wasters clogging up squad places and bring in another five in the summer.
If only 2/3 of our current playing survive a Koeman purge then they have only themselves to blame.
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But they DO compete. They do press now and defend better than at any point in the last two seasons.
What they don't know how to do though is keep the ball. How to shape up after 60 mins of running their balls off. How to manage the game.
Everyone pillored the last manager so why can't we critique the current one?
 


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