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Ronald Koeman

Ronald Koeman...good choice for us?

  • yes, he'll get us top 6 and stability

  • no, it's uninspiring even if top 6 is back on

  • josé on toast


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Seems strange that an announcement is taking so long when it's all supposed to be agreed........
It's frogging Sunday morning
RK came back off holiday was involved in negotiations
Was told to go home and unpack and get his feet up before a Monday announcement when the media circus will kick in and he won't get any peace for weeks
 
Very happy about this.

Firstly, Koeman has PL experience which is very important. He also knows has to rebuild a squad after losing key players, which could come in very handy. His form at Southampton does worry me a little, 1 win in 10 games is terrible, but he did turn things around, and i keep thinking what if he didn't hit that run of poor games.., the league could of looked much different. I really really hope we get Monchi aswell, i would feel alot more safe with the 2 of them together.
 

Genuine question for you lot

Given that Ronald is more of a pragmatic manager (more aligned to moyes than a pochettino)

how will you feel if the style of football reflects that and you have an average showing in the cups and finish say 8th?
given the money you lot are about to spend.

will be harder next season with Pep, Mourinho, Liverpool not in europe arsenal and chelsea

West Ham will surely be in the top half and so will we (saints) if our next appointment is right

how would 8th place seem to you?

I think next season is about consolidation and getting some semblance of performance from a team that was criminally out of fitness and form. The current squad is much better than our form last year suggests.

I would expect an improvement from last year just from that.

You then have to factor other teams improving which probably counteracts any improvement from the current squad, particularly as we have a new manager which will take some time to get going.

What we do in the transfer market will be interesting, especially relative to clubs around us. I think people are getting a little carried away in their expectation of what £100m will get you but that is understandable given how much we have struggled financially. What the money does give you is genuine ability to improve the squad.

One thing I would like to mention is the assumption from outside Everton that this is just another middle eastern investor who wants to try and force his way to the top by throwing money everywhere.

This is not what is happening at all. First, he's been a large shareholder in Arsenal for many years. He understands football and the premier league. We are looking at bringing in top business expertise from outside. David Dein is rumoured to be on his way as well as the current CFO of BP. All this is to improve the business & commercial strategy of the club. The key goal is a new stadium and a site has apparently already been identified.

On the playing side of things, there are obvious problems but this was linked to the former management team and their philosophy rather than quality of players. We are looking at improving the infrastructure of the playing/coaching staff, the first step of which was to replace the manager. Expect a DOF to follow. Our youth set up is already excellent and we have a number of great prospects pushing for the first team. Some of which have been developed internally and some of which have been bought at a young age (the youth team has its own transfer budget). Expect to see names like Galloway, Holgate, Kenny, Pennington, Ledson, Dowell and Davies make the step over the next couple of years (some have already appeared in the first team). That is not an exhaustive list by the way.

This really is a long term project and not an attempt to buy our way to the top. The transfer budget is just a way to help facilitate this.

It may all fall flat of its face but as a fan for 35 years, I cant help but be optimistic about the future.

To answer your question, I think 8th and a cup run is the minimum we should expect. But I think we might surprise a few and do better next season.
 
It's frogging Sunday morning
RK came back off holiday was involved in negotiations
Was told to go home and unpack and get his feet up before a Monday announcement when the media circus will kick in and he won't get any peace for weeks

The Brian Cloughs of this world used to drive round on a Sunday morning poaching (players, obviously) those who had agreed to go elsewhere but hadn't yet signed........
 

Once again we've looked down or sideways for a new manager, instead of looking up.

Surprised you think this. Without Moshiri at the helm, do you genuinely believe we would have been able to attract Koeman?

If BK was still in charge, we most likely would have stuck with Martinez, but you must remember the potential candidates after Moyes - David Weir & Malkay Makay were front runners!

Signing up Koeman and turning down the likes of Pellegrini shows the massive change in the ambition of our club.
 
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Very happy about this.

Firstly, Koeman has PL experience which is very important. He also knows has to rebuild a squad after losing key players, which could come in very handy. His form at Southampton does worry me a little, 1 win in 10 games is terrible, but he did turn things around, and i keep thinking what if he didn't hit that run of poor games.., the league could of looked much different. I really really hope we get Monchi aswell, i would feel alot more safe with the 2 of them together.
It's early days,does he want a DoF and if he does will it be Monchi?
 
Genuine question for you lot

Given that Ronald is more of a pragmatic manager (more aligned to moyes than a pochettino)

how will you feel if the style of football reflects that and you have an average showing in the cups and finish say 8th?
given the money you lot are about to spend.

will be harder next season with Pep, Mourinho, Liverpool not in europe arsenal and chelsea

West Ham will surely be in the top half and so will we (saints) if our next appointment is right

how would 8th place seem to you?
I prefer waiting till our and other clubs transferbusiness has been done before giving a definite opinion on that. As I look at it now, 8th place doesn't have to be such a bad result. See what the outgoings and incomings gonna be.

No matter the 2 last seasons under Martinez, we still have a pretty decent squad to start with. Now if Stones and Lukaku are going to leave. Not so sure on that myself, as there won't be that many clubs prepared/able to match our (supposedly) £65m asking price, we'll have to take a step back before moving forward.

Imo the top 4 will become more of a top 7 or 8 in the coming years with Liverpool, Spurs, West Ham and us being the most likely to make that step up. If we finish eight in the end but Koeman lays a solid foundation to build upon than it wouldn't bother me too much.

As I said though, I'd prefer to wait till after the transfer window to really form an opinion on what league finish would be acceptable.
 

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