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Ronald Koeman

Ronald Koeman...good choice for us?

  • yes, he'll get us top 6 and stability

  • no, it's uninspiring even if top 6 is back on

  • josé on toast


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He was my first choice before Jose came on the scene, some of you are going to be made up he's proved you wrong if he does come.

Soton fans rate him better than the Poch, they should know.
 
In what respect? Because he is 8 years younger? Unless you expect a 20 year stint at the helm I think either is capable of a long term project given the chance. I just have reservations about De Boer's lack of experience in a decent league. And he looks like the type of manager that'll upsticks as soon as a 'big' club comes knocking. (Not that Koeman won't if he does that to Southampton to come to us!)
In the respect that one has held his position for 5 years and the other switches his team every 1 or 2.

Seriously though, f*** that "decent league" crap. Mourinho came to England with no experience of the PL, Pellegrini, Mancini, Ranieri (v1), Koeman did too by the way, as did a ton of other managers who went on to do very well. Is it not time, in 2016, that people start judging managers on ability, not on "he's not managed here, he must be crap lad"?
 
I can't agree about pace and intensity - fairly sure a team like Atletico (and most 'top tier' German teams) would molest any English team out there.

About the rest - hard to disagree, but how can a manager who's won 4 titles on the bounce and kept his team as one of the best in the country (also known for said pragmatic approach) not be a good, if not better, choice?

There's a very good reason why we don't do that well in Europe, mate.

It's down to the intensity our sides play at week-in-week-out, and the drain on energy that it takes out of them.

Atleti are a superb side, but don't face the same competitive teams in their league as, for example, City do in ours.

The only team that are having success in Europe are Liverpool due to Klopp's high-intensity game, but to keep that up for an entire season is pretty much impossible in the Prem (Leicester had to amend their style slightly from March onwards).

And which manager are you talking about sorry? De Boer?

He isn't known for his pragmatic approach - nowhere near. In fact his stubborn attitude is what he gets criticised for, and many question his ability to defend. Sound familiar?

I think he's a very good manager, and if he comes I'll be happy, but for me Koeman just edges it. Suppose time will tell.
 

In the respect that one has held his position for 5 years and the other switches his team every 1 or 2.

Seriously though, f*** that "decent league" crap. Mourinho came to England with no experience of the PL, Pellegrini, Mancini, Ranieri (v1), Koeman did too by the way, as did a ton of other managers who went on to do very well. Is it not time, in 2016, that people start judging managers on ability, not on "he's not managed here, he must be crap lad"?

Nobody is saying that.

What we're pointing out is that right now this side may need the experience of somebody who has managed in the Prem, as realistically we're not in a position to be able to attract a top-quality manager that has won CLs and titles. De Boer has been well-documented by many people who know and love Dutch football better than we do that, while he is a good manager, has flaws very similar to Martinez.
 
Can't really vote on that poll because it's (unsurprisingly) designed to encourage a negative discussion on Koeman.

For the 34th time, because he's finishing around the top 6 with Southampton does not suggest he will do so or will be aiming to do so here. If he's given a top 4 budget, he will aim to and will be expected to deliver CL qualification in decent time. If he can replicate the level of over-achievement he has brought about at Southampton on a top 4 budget, we'll all be very happy.
 
In the respect that one has held his position for 5 years and the other switches his team every 1 or 2.

Seriously though, f*** that "decent league" crap. Mourinho came to England with no experience of the PL, Pellegrini, Mancini, Ranieri (v1), Koeman did too by the way, as did a ton of other managers who went on to do very well. Is it not time, in 2016, that people start judging managers on ability, not on "he's not managed here, he must be crap lad"?

I didn't say he was crap thoug did I?

And I'd be happy with De Boer as much as anyone. I don't really know why but I just prefer Koeman. I see the arguement for both and the fact Koeman has not had a long stint anywhere is a good point.
 

There's a very good reason why we don't do that well in Europe, mate.

It's down to the intensity our sides play at week-in-week-out, and the drain on energy that it takes out of them.

Atleti are a superb side, but don't face the same competitive teams in their league as, for example, City do in ours.

The only team that are having success in Europe are Liverpool due to Klopp's high-intensity game, but to keep that up for an entire season is pretty much impossible in the Prem (Leicester had to amend their style slightly from March onwards).

And which manager are you talking about sorry? De Boer?

He isn't known for his pragmatic approach - nowhere near. In fact his stubborn attitude is what he gets criticised for, and many question his ability to defend. Sound familiar?

I think he's a very good manager, and if he comes I'll be happy, but for me Koeman just edges it. Suppose time will tell.
I've only read and seen people criticising the breaking down of "lower" teams, rather than the defending, and if anything being overly defensive at times (which at this point for us would be a breathe of fresh air lol ).

Agree to disagree on that to be honest, I'm of the exact opposite opinion about the situation - de Boer just edges it for me.

Obviously Mourinho is a mountain ahead like...
 
I didn't say he was crap thoug did I?

And I'd be happy with De Boer as much as anyone. I don't really know why but I just prefer Koeman. I see the arguement for both and the fact Koeman has not had a long stint anywhere is a good point.
You didn't, but it's an argument overused in the last... Well, since we went downhill with Boberto.
 

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