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Ronald Koeman

Ronald Koeman...good choice for us?

  • yes, he'll get us top 6 and stability

  • no, it's uninspiring even if top 6 is back on

  • josé on toast


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But that's the key.

Bar the big names (Mou, Pep, Simeone, Ancelotti), then I'd much rather have somebody proven in our own league - the most competitive in the world - rather than a manager who doesn't have any PL experience.
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Right now it's not - Southampton could end up playing in the Europa League with a win in the last game (IIRC), whereas we might finish, what, 11th at best?

How is that in any way better?

I agree mate - looking at it objectively and on purely current footballing levels of relative success (however you define it) - it's not.

It would be a step up in the stature of the club and history, but again objectively speaking how much does that factor into it.

The key (if he were to come here) would be the money. If he has to sell the likes of Forster and Mane etc this summer at Sotton, but we can offer him a big transfer kitty (whether that is boosted by sales of players as well who knows yet - I presume it probably will be), then we may be able to offer him more than he can get at St Mary's in terms of that - as well as a heftier pay-package.
 
The more I look at what he has done at Southampton the more impressed I am.

Plus, imagine what the likes of Stones (if he stays), Galloway, Pennington, Browning, Foulds and Holgate could learn off one of the games most cultured defenders.
 

Koeman seems a nice guy, but have a read on his managerial career .It's certainly not as good as i expected and he left or got sacked from a few clubs after a short period in charge

Managerial career[edit]
Early years[edit]
Having retired as a player after his stint with Feyenoord, Koeman became a member of the coaching staff of Guus Hiddink during the 1998 World Cup along withJohan Neeskens and Frank Rijkaard. After the tournament Koeman was appointed the assistant coach of Barcelona. In 2000, he was handed his first managerial job as the head coach of Vitesse Arnhem where he led the team to a UEFA Cup spot on a relatively limited budget.

Ajax[edit]
Koeman was appointed the manager of Ajax in 2001. Ajax's fortunes suffered a steady decline after Koeman got off to a successful start at the Amsterdam Arena, winning a domestic double in 2001–02. Despite regaining the title in 2003–04, Ajax had fallen eight points behind rivals PSV in the Eredivisie. This situation, coupled with Ajax being knocked out of the UEFA Cup by Auxerre, 3–2 on aggregate, led Koeman to resign the following day on 25 February 2005.[16]

Benfica[edit]
Koeman bounced back quickly from a disappointing end to his reign at Ajax in February 2005, taking up the vacant position at Portuguese champions Benficafollowing the departure of legendary Italian Giovanni Trapattoni. In Benfica, against whom he won the 1988 European Cup Final as a player with PSV, Koeman only won the Portuguese Super Cup; the team finished the Portuguese League in third place (behind rivals Porto and Sporting) and was knocked out of the Portuguese Cup in the quarter-finals (after losing to Vitória de Guimarães). This, along with an offer from PSV, sufficed for the manager to leave one year before the end of his contract, even though Benfica reached the quarter-finals of the Champions League before losing to Barcelona, who ended up winning the trophy.

PSV[edit]
In the 2006–07 season, Koeman served as head coach of PSV, as successor to Guus Hiddink. PSV dominated the first season half, keeping competitors AZ and Ajax at a reasonable distance, and PSV seemed almost destined to become champions again. However, PSV suffered in the second half of the season, also because of injuries of players Jefferson Farfán, Alex and Ibrahim Afellay, obtaining only 19 out 39 possible points.[17] AZ and Ajax regained their momentum, making for a close finish, with all three teams tied at 72 points before the last competition day. AZ played struggling Excelsior in their final match, but did not manage to win. Ajax played at Willem II, but did not score enough goals; it was PSV eventually who triumphed, winning at home 5–1 against Vitesse Arnhem, and thereby becoming Eredivisie champions, one goal ahead of Ajax.

Valencia[edit]
On 31 October 2007, Koeman agreed to be the new coach of Valencia after the sacking of Quique Flores, starting on 5 November 2007.[18] With Valencia he won the 2007–08 Spanish Cup, a tournament he previously won as a player of Barcelona. This was Valencia's first Copa del Rey since 1999.[19] The remainder of his tenure at Valencia would prove disappointing. The team would slump to 15th in the league, only two points above the relegation zone, as well as finishing bottom of their Champions League group. A 5–1 defeat by Athletic Bilbao would prove the final straw for Koeman's time with Valencia. He was sacked the following day, on 21 April 2008.[19]

AZ[edit]
He was appointed manager of AZ on 18 May 2009,[20] after Louis van Gaal, who won the 2008–09 Eredivisie with AZ, joined Bayern Munich. On 5 December 2009, AZ announced that Koeman no longer was in charge of AZ, after losing 7 of the first 16 games in the Dutch competition.[21]

Feyenoord[edit]
On 21 July 2011, Koeman was appointed manager of Feyenoord, signing a one-year contract with the Dutch club as replacement for outgoing trainer Mario Been.[22]Through this appointment, Koeman has notably become the first man ever to serve as both player and head coach at all teams of the so-called "traditional big three" of Dutch football – Ajax, PSV Eindhoven and Feyenoord.[23] Moreover, he has completed this in the same order as player and as manager. At the beginning of 2012, it was announced that his contract was extended. In February 2014, Koeman announced that he would leave his position at Feyenoord at the end of the 2013-14 season to pursue other ambitions.[24]

Southampton[edit]

Koeman as a Southampton coach in September 2014.
In June 2014 Koeman was announced as the replacement for Southampton manager Mauricio Pochettino, signing a three-year deal with the club.[25]

In his first six Premier League games in charge of the club, Koeman managed four wins, a draw and a defeat, propelling Southampton to second place in the league standings.[26][27] He also led them past Arsenal in the third round of the League Cup with a 2−1 victory at the Emirates.[28][29]

In October 2014, Koeman dismissed former teammate Ronald de Boer's suggestion that Koeman should become the manager of the Dutch national team due to poor form under Guus Hiddink.[30]

Southampton's form in September led to Koeman being named Premier League Manager of the Month for September.[31] In January, he was named Manager of the Month for a second time after managing Southampton to three wins out of three, including victories against Manchester United and Arsenal.[32]

On 7 August 2015, it was announced that Koeman would miss the season opener away against Newcastle due to a ruptured Achilles tendon.[33]

On 5 February 2016, it was announced that Ronald Koeman had won his third Premier League Manager of the Month award for January 2016 after winning 3 out of 4 games during the month, finishing with a well fought 1-0 away win at Manchester United

Yep it's not been the best at times but it is a hell of a lot of experience at clubs bigger than Everton in the European game.

And, you're only as good as your last performance.

He learned from his mistakes and he showed that by managing to get the best out of a very young and inexperienced Feyenoord side.

He's then used the lessons learned to make a success of himself in the Prem - in his first job in this country - when having to come in after a side had lost 3 of its best players (selling the other two the year after), albeit building on decent foundations set by Poch.

However, unlike RM who was unable to keep up the progress he made in his first season, Koeman has improved on it again second time around and looks set to break their record points total for the second year running.

Oh, and people say they want a winner. Here are his honours...

Player[edit]
Ajax
PSV Eindhoven
Barcelona
Netherlands
Manager[edit]
Ajax
Benfica
PSV
Valencia
AZ Alkmaar
Individual[edit]
Player
Manager
 

I'm surprised his disastrous time at Valencia hasn't been brought up.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/apr/21/europeanfootball.sport

He almost relegated them after they had finished 4th the previous season. Hmm...

Yep and he won the Copa del Rey with them.

He made mistakes and rightly that cost him his job. However, that was how many years ago, 7?

Since then, bar a bad spell at Alkmaar, he's proved he's a manager who can learn from his mistakes - something that was the main flaw with Martinez...
 

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