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Ronald Koeman

Ronald Koeman...good choice for us?

  • yes, he'll get us top 6 and stability

  • no, it's uninspiring even if top 6 is back on

  • josé on toast


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I'd take him.

He is uninspiring when managers overseas are technically available and we just look as far as our own league.

But he can push up the league, can build a squad on a budget so increase the budget should produce a better one. Also solid team who can attack an score goals.

So I can get behind him
 
Not just Southampton fans. Nearly everyone I've spoken to think it's a sideways step.

I think we need to realise our status has fallen a bit recently. We'd be thinking the same thing if Spurs had finished below us 2 seasons on the trot.

No we dont need to realise our status. Fans and the media need to realise Everton's status and attractiveness. Ronald Koeman is interest in the job, and he's not using it as leverage for a new Saints contract either.

Fans and Media want Everton to stay plucky hence the shouts for Moyes, Howe, Hughes etc from a lot of them. Moshiri doesnt want Everton to be 'plucky' and we most certainly wont be. We can take any manager in the League we want apart from real big names.
 
Koeman seems a nice guy, but have a read on his managerial career .It's certainly not as good as i expected and he left or got sacked from a few clubs after a short period in charge

Managerial career[edit]
Early years[edit]
Having retired as a player after his stint with Feyenoord, Koeman became a member of the coaching staff of Guus Hiddink during the 1998 World Cup along withJohan Neeskens and Frank Rijkaard. After the tournament Koeman was appointed the assistant coach of Barcelona. In 2000, he was handed his first managerial job as the head coach of Vitesse Arnhem where he led the team to a UEFA Cup spot on a relatively limited budget.

Ajax[edit]
Koeman was appointed the manager of Ajax in 2001. Ajax's fortunes suffered a steady decline after Koeman got off to a successful start at the Amsterdam Arena, winning a domestic double in 2001–02. Despite regaining the title in 2003–04, Ajax had fallen eight points behind rivals PSV in the Eredivisie. This situation, coupled with Ajax being knocked out of the UEFA Cup by Auxerre, 3–2 on aggregate, led Koeman to resign the following day on 25 February 2005.[16]

Benfica[edit]
Koeman bounced back quickly from a disappointing end to his reign at Ajax in February 2005, taking up the vacant position at Portuguese champions Benficafollowing the departure of legendary Italian Giovanni Trapattoni. In Benfica, against whom he won the 1988 European Cup Final as a player with PSV, Koeman only won the Portuguese Super Cup; the team finished the Portuguese League in third place (behind rivals Porto and Sporting) and was knocked out of the Portuguese Cup in the quarter-finals (after losing to Vitória de Guimarães). This, along with an offer from PSV, sufficed for the manager to leave one year before the end of his contract, even though Benfica reached the quarter-finals of the Champions League before losing to Barcelona, who ended up winning the trophy.

PSV[edit]
In the 2006–07 season, Koeman served as head coach of PSV, as successor to Guus Hiddink. PSV dominated the first season half, keeping competitors AZ and Ajax at a reasonable distance, and PSV seemed almost destined to become champions again. However, PSV suffered in the second half of the season, also because of injuries of players Jefferson Farfán, Alex and Ibrahim Afellay, obtaining only 19 out 39 possible points.[17] AZ and Ajax regained their momentum, making for a close finish, with all three teams tied at 72 points before the last competition day. AZ played struggling Excelsior in their final match, but did not manage to win. Ajax played at Willem II, but did not score enough goals; it was PSV eventually who triumphed, winning at home 5–1 against Vitesse Arnhem, and thereby becoming Eredivisie champions, one goal ahead of Ajax.

Valencia[edit]
On 31 October 2007, Koeman agreed to be the new coach of Valencia after the sacking of Quique Flores, starting on 5 November 2007.[18] With Valencia he won the 2007–08 Spanish Cup, a tournament he previously won as a player of Barcelona. This was Valencia's first Copa del Rey since 1999.[19] The remainder of his tenure at Valencia would prove disappointing. The team would slump to 15th in the league, only two points above the relegation zone, as well as finishing bottom of their Champions League group. A 5–1 defeat by Athletic Bilbao would prove the final straw for Koeman's time with Valencia. He was sacked the following day, on 21 April 2008.[19]

AZ[edit]
He was appointed manager of AZ on 18 May 2009,[20] after Louis van Gaal, who won the 2008–09 Eredivisie with AZ, joined Bayern Munich. On 5 December 2009, AZ announced that Koeman no longer was in charge of AZ, after losing 7 of the first 16 games in the Dutch competition.[21]

Feyenoord[edit]
On 21 July 2011, Koeman was appointed manager of Feyenoord, signing a one-year contract with the Dutch club as replacement for outgoing trainer Mario Been.[22]Through this appointment, Koeman has notably become the first man ever to serve as both player and head coach at all teams of the so-called "traditional big three" of Dutch football – Ajax, PSV Eindhoven and Feyenoord.[23] Moreover, he has completed this in the same order as player and as manager. At the beginning of 2012, it was announced that his contract was extended. In February 2014, Koeman announced that he would leave his position at Feyenoord at the end of the 2013-14 season to pursue other ambitions.[24]

Southampton[edit]

Koeman as a Southampton coach in September 2014.
In June 2014 Koeman was announced as the replacement for Southampton manager Mauricio Pochettino, signing a three-year deal with the club.[25]

In his first six Premier League games in charge of the club, Koeman managed four wins, a draw and a defeat, propelling Southampton to second place in the league standings.[26][27] He also led them past Arsenal in the third round of the League Cup with a 2−1 victory at the Emirates.[28][29]

In October 2014, Koeman dismissed former teammate Ronald de Boer's suggestion that Koeman should become the manager of the Dutch national team due to poor form under Guus Hiddink.[30]

Southampton's form in September led to Koeman being named Premier League Manager of the Month for September.[31] In January, he was named Manager of the Month for a second time after managing Southampton to three wins out of three, including victories against Manchester United and Arsenal.[32]

On 7 August 2015, it was announced that Koeman would miss the season opener away against Newcastle due to a ruptured Achilles tendon.[33]

On 5 February 2016, it was announced that Ronald Koeman had won his third Premier League Manager of the Month award for January 2016 after winning 3 out of 4 games during the month, finishing with a well fought 1-0 away win at Manchester United
 

Not just Southampton fans. Nearly everyone I've spoken to think it's a sideways step.

I think we need to realise our status has fallen a bit recently. We'd be thinking the same thing if Spurs had finished below us 2 seasons on the trot.
I think that is because nobody knows how much money we have to spend, if we go out this summer and spend £100m all of a sudden fans across the country will look at us in a totally different way, until we do they will be sceptical as to what Moshiri will do for the club. Give any established premier league side £100m+ to spend in one window and they should be transformed into a decent side, won't always happen but clearly can.
 
Not just Southampton fans. Nearly everyone I've spoken to think it's a sideways step.

I think we need to realise our status has fallen a bit recently. We'd be thinking the same thing if Spurs had finished below us 2 seasons on the trot.
Hopefully opinions will change once Moshiri has put his stamp on the club.
 
I may be accused of being unambitious here but i really do not share most peoples opinion of our current standing in world football? Why should we think that a long line of elite managers would be queueing up begging for the job? We have not exactly set the EPL or Europe lately have we? We have a good first eleven, but we do not have a great squad, despite what everyone says, some of the better ones will be leaving, and some of those who will stay are getting on a bit now and have one season or so left in them.

We do not have a massive pot of money to spend, everyone will have lots to spend with the new TV money, and so far Moshiri hasnt exactly said he is adding any cash of his own. We arent in Europe and we are unlikely to make europe next season with the amount of rebuilding required? So for me Koeman is a good shout, he will steady the ship, build a good foundation and that will allow us to then attract the elite managers so many are calling for! I know i will be lambasted for saying this, but i think the rose tinted glasses need to come off, we will probably need eight players added to the current crop to allow us to compete for europe and for honours. They will not just click in season one?

I think the current euphoria about losing Martinez and getting new money in is great And long overdue, but we do have to get real here lads, we are still very much a sleeping giant!

benitez went to newcastle, klopp to liverpool, ranieri to leicester, koeman to southampton. So theres no reason why we couldnt atrract alot of elite managers.
 
He's fine. Would do an OK job. Could do much worse, and he's more proven than De Boer.

Just... not an exciting appointment. He's the type of manager who will attract decent players but that's about it.

That said, he's the perfect "middle ground" between Moyes and Martinez; a pragmatist, but someone who sets up his sides to attack. In that regard, combined with expected investment, we'll be a solid top six side for the two or three years he sticks around, because nothing suggests he's a long term type of manager.

I agree mate but the thing is, what is exciting?

Bar Mourinho, Simeone and Pep, they're all pretty boring, really...
 

Would be a side ways move for Everton I think. Not impressed by him really. Should be looking bigger with more upside. If mid table is what we want then yes go for him.

To be honest mate, I think most other people (rightly so) would see it as a sideways move for Koeman more than a sideways move for Everton...
 
I'd take him.

He is uninspiring when managers overseas are technically available and we just look as far as our own league.

But he can push up the league, can build a squad on a budget so increase the budget should produce a better one. Also solid team who can attack an score goals.

So I can get behind him

But that's the key.

Bar the big names (Mou, Pep, Simeone, Ancelotti), then I'd much rather have somebody proven in our own league - the most competitive in the world - rather than a manager who doesn't have any PL experience.
 
I cant say I am a massive fan of his.

I wouldnt complain is we got him but I think he would be a very bland appointment. He could probably get us back to where we were under Moyes/Martinez in his first season but can he push us on from there? I'm not overly convinced.

Cracking player in his day of course but his managerial record is fairly patchy.
 

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