Ronald Koeman

[dano195]

just seen that he has said his future lays with Southampton. If we did get him in I wouldn't complain, more proven than De Boer

 

[bullybeef]

I say body language.
Specifically it was his eye contact or complete lack of it when saying 'yes' he was staying.
Throughout the rest of the questioning he was looking directly at the press.
Have a look for yourself.

 

[meagher94]

"We'll sit down and discuss the future" is miles away from "I'm definitely staying".

 

[Boss_Blue]

Here are some facts for the Southampton fans reading:

Southampton

1 (Yes, just the 1) FA Cup
39 seasons of top flight football
1,567 top flight points
Multiple spells in the third tier, including very recently.
32 505 capacity stadium
2014-15 revenue of £113.7m
Two decent finishes in the last two seasons (7-8), look on for another decent finish this season (7-8).

Everton

9 times champions of England
5 FA Cups
1 European Cup winners cup
113 seasons of top flight football (comfortably the most)
4,402 top flight points
39571 capacity stadium
2014-15 revenue of £125.6m
A poor finish of 11th last season. Currently 12th.

@ijjysmith

Print this out and pin it next to your work computer.

 

[ncblue]

Can you honestly imagine us paying his salary?

Why is his salary even open for debate? He's have us finishing in the top 4 without question. How much would that be worth? More than the difference between Martinez and his salary.

 

[ncblue]

Here are some facts for the Southampton fans reading:

Southampton

1 (Yes, just the 1) FA Cup
39 seasons of top flight football
1,567 top flight points
Multiple spells in the third tier, including very recently.
32 505 capacity stadium
2014-15 revenue of £113.7m
Two decent finishes in the last two seasons (7-8), look on for another decent finish this season (7-8).

Everton

9 times champions of England
5 FA Cups
1 European Cup winners cup
113 seasons of top flight football (comfortably the most)
4,402 top flight points
39571 capacity stadium
2014-15 revenue of £125.6m
A poor finish of 11th last season. Currently 12th.

Apparently though "history means nothing".

 

[bluegirl]

What about Pellegrini, wasn't he on your list before?

Yeah change my mind on him. Don't want him.

 

[AndyC]

Do people really think we could get Mourinho?

Yes

 

[paulbefc]

Why do you think that? You could more easily say it encourages a positive discussion as the negative option still admits we look likely to make top 6, with more stable team performances. After two disordered seasons in the bottom half that's encouraging, no?

Ideally, top 6 is where we need to be, for that way lies European adventures. I think most agree Koeman is a likely candidate to put us back there, based on his last two seasons at Saints.

The case for "no" is that a high-end Prem-winning candidate like Pellegrini or Mancini would be expected to get us top 4 straightaway, and that this is more desirable as it aims higher quicker. This logic also makes sense as by waiting too long we give the other big clubs a chance to regroup after this strange season: by the time Koeman's Everton is ready for top-4 we may have 5 or 6 really strong rivals.


I went for josé-on-toast...no José no party.

That poll suggests the best possible outcome should Koeman take over is 6th and stability. Fortunately that's not the case.

The idea that Koeman would be in any way limited to bringing us to 6th-placed positions when backed with resources dwarfing those he currently achieves them with with is, happily, based on flawed logic and I look forward to that penny dropping on here in due course.

 

[bluegirl]

In what respect? Because he is 8 years younger? Unless you expect a 20 year stint at the helm I think either is capable of a long term project given the chance. I just have reservations about De Boer's lack of experience in a decent league. And he looks like the type of manager that'll upsticks as soon as a 'big' club comes knocking. (Not that Koeman won't if he does that to Southampton to come to us!)

Nothing to do with age, couldn't tell you how old ether of them are.

Because look at Koeman at Southampton, not committing to a new contract, keeping his options open. Nothing wrong with that but he's waiting for a better deal elsewhere. And I think he'd do that here too.

 

[Jags..class]

Does Koeman honour his contracts?

 

[dholliday]

That poll suggests the best possible outcome should Koeman take over is 6th and stability. Fortunately that's not the case.

The idea that Koeman would be in any way limited to bringing us to 6th-placed positions when backed with resources dwarfing those he currently achieves them with with is, happily, based on completely flawed logic and I look forward to that penny dropping on here in due course.

Top 6 isn't necessarily the same as 6th. But still top 6 (including 6th place) will be the target for Koeman during his first couple seasons as Everton manager, and it's a realistic one.

And since when is stability a negative thing?

 

[Connor]

Does Koeman honour his contracts?

He left Benfica a year early to go to PSV

 

[Jags..class]

Nothing to do with age, couldn't tell you how old ether of them are.

Because look at Koeman at Southampton, not committing to a new contract, keeping his options open. Nothing wrong with that but he's waiting for a better deal elsewhere. And I think he'd do that here too.

Of course Moyes did that too. Managers will always want to climb the ladder, it's like that in every business. Koeman is like a gypsy, likes to move ground

 

[Aqui1a]

Mental or want the best?

He's approached us, not the other way round.

By expecting us to get Mourinho - the best - then that's what makes you mental. imo.