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Ronald Koeman

Ronald Koeman...good choice for us?

  • yes, he'll get us top 6 and stability

  • no, it's uninspiring even if top 6 is back on

  • josé on toast


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Apparently though "history means nothing". ;)

The only edge Southampton have on Everton is that last season they finished 7th over 11th and this season it will be about similar. This is the best it has ever gotten for Southampton, the best ever.

Despite that, we still generate more money, have a bigger stadium and more fans. Yes, that's right, in the present.

Then you can factor in the history, in which regard Southampton aren't even on Everton's radar.
 
Top 6 isn't necessarily the same as 6th. But still top 6 (including 6th place) will be the target for Koeman during his first couple seasons as Everton manager, and it's a realistic one.

And since when is stability a negative thing?

If stability will be the aim for him for the first couple of seasons, why not for others? I don't see why he'd have different aims to, as you said, Pellegrini, when backed with the same resources. Pellegrini may have achieved higher league positions at City, but he'd inherited a side that recently won the league.

We achieved top 6 "stability" under Moyes consistently on a shoe-string budget. I would regard it as a negative thing if we were to do no better on a large one.
 

Warming to the idea of him, especially his ability to rebuild teams, a job he will def have to do if he comes to L4
 
If stability will be the aim for him for the first couple of seasons, why not for others? I don't see why he'd have different aims to, as you said, Pellegrini, when backed with the same resources. Pellegrini may have achieved higher league positions at City, but he'd inherited a side that recently won the league.

We achieved top 6 "stability" under Moyes consistently on a shoe-string budget. I would regard it as a negative thing if we were to do no better on a large one.


Because his pedigree isn't one of winning major-league trophies (bar one domestic cup with Valencia). His recent pedigree is stabilising Southampton into a decent league position. He didn't win them a cup but they might yet just about qualify for Europe.

De Boer has no major-league experience, so we can't realistically think stability would be the aim as he's an unknown quantity.

Pellegrini has won the Prem and will be expected to get us top 4: we'd be pushing for quick progress under him, not working towards stability (which would then come naturally anyway through Champs League qualification). Sounds great, but then there's a risk involved as some of the City performances have shown.

Koeman is the stability option to return to where Moyes had us. Considering how much ground we've lost under Martinez, this is the sensible option.
 
....you are more qualified than me but I have worked for an on course bookmaker on a number of occasions in my younger days. I've been in the betting shop today and I'll be there tomorrow morning. I do have some idea how to run a book but I wouldn't claim to be an expert.
Not an expert but that's basically how it works. Spread out liabilities so as you win or at least lose very little on a market.
 

Just had a conversation with a Southampton fan on Twitter, who told me any neutral would say Southampton to Everton is a sidestep at best. And then went onto tell me Southampton have a better squad, better facilities and more money.

Either I've lost the plot or I've woken up on another planet.
 
Just had a conversation with a Southampton fan on Twitter, who told me any neutral would say Southampton to Everton is a sidestep at best. And then went onto tell me Southampton have a better squad, better facilities and more money.

Either I've lost the plot or I've woken up on another planet.

That Saints fan was talking out of;) his/her Uranus
 
Just had a conversation with a Southampton fan on Twitter, who told me any neutral would say Southampton to Everton is a sidestep at best. And then went onto tell me Southampton have a better squad, better facilities and more money.

Either I've lost the plot or I've woken up on another planet.
You see, this is precisely why you should stay off twitter.
 

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