paulbefc
Player Valuation: £60m
We surely can't be going down the blaming the manager/system route again. How many managers has he played for now? How many positions, how many systems?
He's just not very good.
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Ross Barkley joins Chelsea, er, Villa on loan
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We surely can't be going down the blaming the manager/system route again. How many managers has he played for now? How many positions, how many systems?
He's just not very good.
He did fine under Moyes, Martinez and Koeman for us, even though he had issues with the latter
Conte clearly never wanted him to begin with and Sarri has been playing him out of position
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Parcheggia l'autobus
He was decent for us for the most part, maybe not as good as we had hoped based on the initial promise but still easily one of our best players. The fact Kovacic has also underwhelmedd playing the exact same role despite being rated very highly should tell you that the tactics at least play a role in his performances.
Having said that its massively unrealistic to think Sarri would change his entire philosophy just to get the best out of Barkley... top priority is getting the best out of your best players and Barkley isn't one of them.
YoboCopter
Player Valuation: £50m
Better than iceland
flibbyflob
Player Valuation: £40m
Boss Rarely
This movement to make out that Ross wasn't any good for us is baffling
Yeah, he's had his ups and downs over the years, but overall he did more good than bad for us and was one our most exciting players of the past decade, whilst also being homegrown
He had many a great game for us. I'll never forget the goals at Newcastle and Swansea for instance
He was a lovely player for us
Yeah, he's had his ups and downs over the years, but overall he did more good than bad for us and was one our most exciting players of the past decade, whilst also being homegrown
He had many a great game for us. I'll never forget the goals at Newcastle and Swansea for instance
He was a lovely player for us
Koeman and the fans were mean to him though.
Fans fault isn't it? Lol
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
He was good in Martinez’s first season and very good in the second half of Koeman’s first season. Outside of that he flattered to deceive a hell of a lot.
paulbefc
Player Valuation: £60m
He did fine for a teenager with incredible talent, but never progressed beyond that. His problems today are almost identical to the problems Barkley had in 2012.
His goal record for an attacking player is abysmal and his assist record is even worse. He wasn't the kind of player who'd dominate a game, which is absolutely fine if you can still produce end product (see Salah, or Lukaku at Everton, for an example closer to home), but he never did have end product because he couldn't be decisive if his life depended on it.
Chelsea are learning what I'm sure they already suspected: Barkley isn't made of the kind of stuff your Dele Allis and Harry Kanes are (despite for me being considerably more talented than the former) and can't be relied upon at the top level.
He was very much a hot and cold player. When he was on it, he was exceptionally good on his day. When he was off the pace, he was at times absolutely woeful. He lacked the consistency and standards of a top class player. He had far too many off days where he was less than a 5 out of 10.
Given his obvious ability, I feel his mentality is massively in question.
paulbefc
Player Valuation: £60m
It's a shame we didn't have better quality to challenge him in that number 10 position as he'd have been out of the starting XI in no time and would have stayed out.
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