Ross Barkley

bignev23 · February 4, 2015

nsno-chris said:
People calling Ross barkley crap but slating others for being underwhelmed with lennon

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Come back when Barkley has helped us to finish 4th (twice)and been an ever present in a side that got to the Quarter finals of the Champions League. If Ross has done this in the next 6 years i'll be impressed. For now he is just Hype.

marty mcfly · February 4, 2015

efcfanwirral said:
A slight problem there as nobody else seems to be either....

If we play with two out and out wingers and are more direct we don't need a playmaker to unlock the door. As others have said Roberto's philosophy went too far this season in much the same way as Rodgers did the season before last. It's not a reason to bin the manager or get too down on the players.

It could be the best thing for us in the long term.

marty mcfly · February 4, 2015

bignev23 said:
Come back when Barkley has helped us to finish 4th (twice)and been an ever present in a side that got to the Quarter finals of the Champions League. If Ross has done this in the next 6 years i'll be impressed. For now he is just Hype.

He's not just hype. He's just young.

Alex Hindmarsh · February 4, 2015

We'll have to change formation to fit Ross in there properly, not creative enough for #10, but neithers Naisy mind you. I could see him as the most attacking centre mid in a 433.

bignev23 · February 4, 2015

Adversus said:
He's not just hype. He's just young.

I just want him to be boss, I know the kid has talent. Its frustrating. All I hear is people making excuses as to why he's not performing. It does my t!ts in.

MACCA75 · February 4, 2015

the golden visionary said:
Most match goers are bellends, think 40 quid gives them the right to hurl abuse at kids half their age

There we have it folks. MOST match goers are bellends.

Good job we get so much sense from all the match thread internet warriors isn't it.

nsno-chris · February 4, 2015

bignev23 said:
Come back when Barkley has helped us to finish 4th (twice)and been an ever present in a side that got to the Quarter finals of the Champions League. If Ross has done this in the next 6 years i'll be impressed. For now he is just Hype.

Errr no

FTY · February 4, 2015

efcfanwirral said:
A slight problem there as nobody else seems to be either....

I think Besic could

bignev23 · February 4, 2015

nsno-chris said:
Errr no

You could have said It was Bale who did it for them and Lennon was just a passenger.

Eggs · February 4, 2015

......if Barkley produces then I'd have him before others but unfortunately that type of performance is rare. The moments of brilliance are too fleeting. He shows signs of greatness but the great players influence games week in week out. He is a paradox.

EvertonAmerican · February 4, 2015

bignev23 said:
Come back when Barkley has helped us to finish 4th (twice)and been an ever present in a side that got to the Quarter finals of the Champions League. If Ross has done this in the next 6 years i'll be impressed. For now he is just Hype.

Two words: Gareth. Bale.

nsno-chris · February 4, 2015

bignev23 said:
You could have said It was Bale who did it for them and Lennon was just a passenger.

Damn, such an obvious reply as well.

Errrrrr it was bale

deipnosophist · February 4, 2015

I agree with @Eggs ; Ross Barkley is a bit of a paradox. There is great talent in the football body, but his football brain seems unable to engage it.

Saint Domingo · February 4, 2015

nsno-chris said:
Damn, such an obvious reply as well.

Errrrrr it was bale

Thing is with that Tottenham side even with Bale in world class mode they found it difficult to win if Lennon wasn't on the other side. It was impossible for teams to defend against both, they stretched teams creating space for each other. Add to this that they had one of Europe's top creative mids (remember that when managers used to play footballers in midfield and not crab passing robots?) in Modric pulling the strings from deep and a classy ten behind the syriker then it all worked properly. A balanced side allowed Bale to show his best and allowed Tottenham to play well.

We are not seeing the best of Barkley because the team is not balanced. We often play with one sometimes no natural widemen. None of our deep lying midfielders have any creativity, and we don't have a natural number 10. There's no space, no rhythm to the passing, no give and gos, no momentum to our play. Put Barkley in the middle deep with one of McCarthy or Besic next to him, two proper wide men ahead of him and a real footballer like Osman or Pienaar, maybe Kone, at ten, and watch him turn into the player we know he can be. There were glimpsss against QPR when he played there, then Roberto put h back on the grave yard shift.

Robles is proof of my mantra that both Moyes and Martinez seem drtermined to ignore. Give players an extended run in their rightful position. John Stones is a centeeback, Coleman is a right back, Osman and Barkley are deep lying centre mids, Naismith is a striker, yet for large parts of their career they are being played woefully out of position getting the wrath of the fans. Mind boggling.