We were 4-1 up by the hour mark. Before he made any sub whatsoever. Against a League Two side.
That's not a game in the balance.
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We were 4-1 up by the hour mark. Before he made any sub whatsoever. Against a League Two side.
That's not a game in the balance.
Thuck ma Baws
Player Valuation: £8m
Maybe it was Hitzlsperger's last game for Everton and Moyes wanted to give him a final opportunity to play and acknowledge the fans. In a game where it actually mattered, Chelsea, he brought Barkley on. If we'd needed a goal with 20 mins to go last night I'm sure it would have been Barkley instead in of Hitzlsperger.
The best thing to do would be to send Barkey off on loan again, and I think that will happen if we can bring in another CM like Vadis. He'll learn more and it will help his development much more to be playing week in week out than it would to have come on for 20 minutes in a game that was already over.
There's a lot of fuss about nothing here I reckon.
The best thing to do would be to send Barkey off on loan again, and I think that will happen if we can bring in another CM like Vadis. He'll learn more and it will help his development much more to be playing week in week out than it would to have come on for 20 minutes in a game that was already over.
There's a lot of fuss about nothing here I reckon.
Well Ross is 19 and it wasn't a prem game so no bother.
But you know Fabregas, Gerrard, Wilshere, Henderson, Spearing, Rodwell, Shelvey, Butt, Lampard, Carrick, Fletcher etc.
Dell Boy
Player Valuation: £35m
Really? I'm new here and I thought that's exactly the reason for it! Or it might just be expressing any opinion that isn't anti-Kenwright in the board/blue union thread
Really? I'm new here and I thought that's exactly the reason for it! Or it might just be expressing any opinion that isn't anti-Kenwright in the board/blue union thread
It is. The rep system basically allows people to say "I agree with that post, well said" or 'I disagree with your post, have a word" without clogging up the board with pointless posts just saying 'this' or 'shut up, lad'.
Pabbers
Player Valuation: £60m
Only Fabregas and Wiltshire in that list you can use as an example. All the others are either badly gash, fcuked from injury (partly due to playing too much, too early), or didnt start games at this age.
Also, many of them are not playing for the team they support, that is a huge part of the mental side of it.
I'm not anti- Barkley far from it, but it annoys me to death that we win 5-1 away from home in the FA Cup and yet again people are moaning that Barkley hasn't been used. We all know much better than Moyes don't we?
I've seen 3-4 reserve games in the past 1.5 years that Barkley has played in ( Games that Stubbs manages not Moyes) and not once have I seen anything to suggest this lad is anywhere near ready to be playing in the first team on a regular basis.
Sure, 2 seasons ago he got off to a flyer with promising performances against a newly promoted QPR and away at Blackburn, but really that is it.
I hope to god he does come good, but like any other player he has to show his worth in the team when given 10 or 15 minutes as a sub or a game in the reserves and sadly Ross hasn't shown that worth for 18 months
I've seen 3-4 reserve games in the past 1.5 years that Barkley has played in ( Games that Stubbs manages not Moyes) and not once have I seen anything to suggest this lad is anywhere near ready to be playing in the first team on a regular basis.
Sure, 2 seasons ago he got off to a flyer with promising performances against a newly promoted QPR and away at Blackburn, but really that is it.
I hope to god he does come good, but like any other player he has to show his worth in the team when given 10 or 15 minutes as a sub or a game in the reserves and sadly Ross hasn't shown that worth for 18 months
TheBlueGibbon
Player Valuation: £40m
So why couldn't he have been used as a substitute yesterday? That's the point most are making, we were 4-1 up against League 2 opposition, so there was little to no pressure on the players, unlike in the Chelsea match.
That would seem like the perfect chance to give some of the young players an opportunity to play, but instead Naismith and Hitzlsperger were brought on.
I'm not calling for Barkley to be starting matches, I don't think anyone is particularly, but when we are winning comfortably, then surely we should be giving players such as Barkley, Duffy and to some extent Gueye and Garbutt first team experience.
AaronTheBlue
Player Valuation: £60m
The reason he didnt come on is likely so he isnt cup tied for whoever he is loaned to.
TheBlueGibbon
Player Valuation: £40m
The only English club he can go on loan to is Sheffield Wednesday, if we didn't want him cup-tied then he shouldn't have been on the bench.
My point is why should he play ahead of Hitz? With Gibsons run of injuries keeping Hitzlesperger until the end of the season is far more important than brining on Barkley in a game that is already won. Ross has done no more than Maggie Guaye has in the past 20 months or so I don't see why we should be playing him in these situations.
It was a terrible game, I remember it most for thinking on the way home that Beckford had the worst touch of any striker I'd ever seen in an Everton shirt, even the likes of Barlow and Angel had more ball control.
I think Barkley played left midfield didn't he? had a good shot and some nice cross field passes. But we lost to a QPR team that was basically the championship team that had come up, Patrick Agyeman, Tommy Johnson, Danny ****tu etc..
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