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Ross Barkley

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blue_order said:
Has he signed (or not) yet? Fed up of Arteta chat and never mind the buzzcocks.

Where's all the ITK's gone?!
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TEF have an ITK apparently.
He puts the numbers of new players on the shirts at the shop.
He got number 2 Morgan right, says he was knocking out number 9 Rooney shirts all last week.
No news on Ross though.
 

Tubey said:
This is spot on.

Mirallas is an inside forward who looks to get beyond the striker; the complete opposite of Pienaar. As such, our full backs are limited in how they can get forward because neither the inside forward or striker have any interest in running channels or showing to feet, which again limits attacking options for a playmaker. Schneiderlin is a very good start for Barkley in terms of building a better quality of footballing team around him, but apparently Koeman sees things differently.
If it were me, I'd have Schneiderlin, Gana, Davies and Barkley as the midfield bedrock of the squad, and build everything around those four.
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I'd like to see a better creative-hard work blend than that.

We have a few players who sort of fall between two stools on that front. I wish we just has specialists.

For me Gueye is the only true defensive cm and is a no brainer starter. Alongside him I'd go with Barkley. We need to be able to have those fixed points in the engine room. It all looks a little too eclectic and flaky going with Scheiderlin and Gueye or Gueye and Davies...or all three.
 
jackyboy said:
Arteta in that 07-09 team was something else. Used to love watching him.
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He had a few advantages to Barkley - the likes of Andy Johnson, who ran all day long and terrified defences, stretching them all game. And the likes of Yakubu, who would play to feet and offer a goal threat at the same time. Even Louis Saha - again, a footballer first and foremost who held the ball. Then there's Pienaar, the emergence of Baines... and it's easy to forget that everything we did was built on just how stupidly good the partnership of Jagielka and Lescott was.

Oh, and Tim Cahill. Must have been a dream to take corners and free kicks with him on the pitch.

Point being it's impossible to compare Barkley and Arteta, because completely different circumstances and ages. My view is Barkley will be one of the very best in a side he can play in to the best of his talents - I hope that's for Everton.
 

davek said:
I'd like to see a better creative-hard work blend than that.

We have a few players who sort of fall between two stools on that front. I wish we just has specialists.

For me Gueye is the only true defensive cm and is a no brainer starter. Alongside him I'd go with Barkley. We need to be able to have those fixed points in the engine room. It all looks a little too eclectic and flaky going with Scheiderlin and Gueye or Gueye and Davies...or all three.
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For me, it's about balance.

Gueye is the destroyer deep, Davies is box to box, Schneiderlin is the deep lying playmaker and Barkley is the one who holds the strings further up.

It's about as perfect a midfield four for me in the league. What lets them down is the three (well, two - Barkley would play further up on the inside right for me) up front. We need a striker who can hold up play, and an inside forward who can come in field and exploit the space Barkley in possession gives.

Yarmolenko inside left would have been superb, as would have Brahimi. You're looking at it from the view that the defensive three all play too similar - the truth is they do so because we don't get up the pitch as a unit because the ball breaks down in the final third. If we held it up, you'd see that midfield shine, no doubt in my mind.
 
tommye said:
At least you're home pal. ;)
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Yes they found the problem again but they will forget it and Imwill end up back in no doubts!
I had to tell them what was wrong 6 hours after test they confirmed it!
Feel crap been on a nebuliser drips etc xRays etc hoping to get out at 11 pm then oh your potassium is to high funny I thought it was and told them in the first minute upon entry they are overworked short on Drs organised chaos in A And E it's not their fault then you get boldly patients ( not me) wanting escalating up the order I told the B I escalated him with a spring up his rectum out the door selfish Bsd - kids in there with broken wrist etc not a peep out of them !
 
Tubey said:
For me, it's about balance.

Gueye is the destroyer deep, Davies is box to box, Schneiderlin is the deep lying playmaker and Barkley is the one who holds the strings further up.

It's about as perfect a midfield four for me in the league. What lets them down is the three (well, two - Barkley would play further up on the inside right for me) up front. We need a striker who can hold up play, and an inside forward who can come in field and exploit the space Barkley in possession gives.

Yarmolenko inside left would have been superb, as would have Brahimi. You're looking at it from the view that the defensive three all play too similar - the truth is they do so because we don't get up the pitch as a unit because the ball breaks down in the final third. If we held it up, you'd see that midfield shine, no doubt in my mind.
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Oh I agree, we are painfully short of class out wide. But I think our midfield, though good in PL terms, are more the Jack of all trades master of none variety. RB has yet to find his position; Davies is all over the shop and a mass of largely disorganised energy; Schneiderlin is not good enough to play the 'regista' role you suggest and is a bit of this and that without specialty for me. Only Gueye has a true and unequivocal strongsuit.
 

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