Anyone Evertonian who wants to leave Everton against the club's wishes is disloyal
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Anyone Evertonian who wants to leave Everton against the club's wishes is disloyal
TheFinnFan
Finners
[Poor language removed] hell
BigDunc'sFod
Player Valuation: £35m
Effectively is the same even though it's different. Right.
Objectively you're correct. Problem is that sports has this huge emotional impact that makes objectivity difficult.
Just look for references to 'disloyalty' or how often he has been called out for not signing if he's such a blue or how his head's been turned and he's not good enough for anything but a bench place. That's all emotional stuff that has come up due to this being publicized.
I also would love for him to sign. And if he doesn't, he should be sold. But the public pressure starting in March, in my opinion, was unnecessary and unprofessional.
It's directly comparable. Only the nature of what the job is changes.
I'm not making stuff up here! They are contracted employees, that's fact.
He should take a pay cut to play then.
Is that not exploitation?
I completely, absolutely disagree, and don't think we'll come to an understanding there.
...not having that Tim. These lads might be Evertonians but this is their profession, this is their job. I can understand the feeling of fans just wanting to wear the jersey but the reality is different.
Howards tipple
Player Valuation: £8m
From the BBC 3 days ago....
Asked on Friday if he was confident the England international would stay, Koeman said: "No.
"I spoke to the player, the board spoke to his agent. I don't know if he won't give an answer. I don't know."
Everton, who will finish the season seventh in the table, are at Arsenal on the final day of the Premier League season on Sunday (15:00 BST).
It could be the final game in a Toffees shirt for Barkley, who came through the club's youth academy and has one year left to run on his deal.
"We will go on and we're looking for players in that position. If he stays there will be more competition," added Dutchman Koeman.
"I am not worried because I like to work with players who like to play.
"If you offer a player a new contract, and a good contract, that means you want to keep the player."
Sorry for the long quote, I just want to point out RK was Asked about Ross, he has replied in an open manner and considering most people complain about the cloak and dagger, behind closed door policy at Goodison, I find it surprising that when the manager answers a direct question honestly there is such up roar!
Maybe he should say no comment - then watch the fume as everyone complains we know nothing!
Then there's others who would just like to hear 'he's magnificent', when we all know he hasn't been...
Asked on Friday if he was confident the England international would stay, Koeman said: "No.
"I spoke to the player, the board spoke to his agent. I don't know if he won't give an answer. I don't know."
Everton, who will finish the season seventh in the table, are at Arsenal on the final day of the Premier League season on Sunday (15:00 BST).
It could be the final game in a Toffees shirt for Barkley, who came through the club's youth academy and has one year left to run on his deal.
"We will go on and we're looking for players in that position. If he stays there will be more competition," added Dutchman Koeman.
"I am not worried because I like to work with players who like to play.
"If you offer a player a new contract, and a good contract, that means you want to keep the player."
Sorry for the long quote, I just want to point out RK was Asked about Ross, he has replied in an open manner and considering most people complain about the cloak and dagger, behind closed door policy at Goodison, I find it surprising that when the manager answers a direct question honestly there is such up roar!
Maybe he should say no comment - then watch the fume as everyone complains we know nothing!
Then there's others who would just like to hear 'he's magnificent', when we all know he hasn't been...
He's an extremely privileged kid. And I sincerely doubt a pay cut is being offered. Not a chance.
Don't think I'll agree with you know. I want the young homegrown players to be grateful of the opportunity they've been given.
What's has he done to earn a 100 grand a week mate
Mate, there's a middle ground between replying with "phenomenal" to every question and generally talking out your arse, and openly disclosing sensitive business matters because you want to reply bluntly to every question.
It's just called being professional about certain things. There's room for "no comment" - he doesn't owe the press an answer about confidential business matters.
Look, if he gets asked about a transfer target, he shrugs his shoulders, right? Because it makes professional sense to do so, because you don't want to disclose important or sensitive information? The same thing should have happened here - it's just common sense.
It upsets me any time a homegrown kid wants out. Complete lack of humility and gratitude in modern football. Afraid I can't agree with you on this one although I understand your view. Massive privilege for any scouse kid to play for this club. It upsets me that that's no longer the case.
Titus Bramble
Best centre half to grace the Premier League
Can someone point me in the direction of the quotes stating there was going to be an announcement please?
Players aren't 'given' opportunities. They earn them. It's not a charity.
I agree that he's privileged. I also don't believe it's a pay cut. However, that's where the thinking leads - he 'owes' Everton something....only, he's already seen that out - he owes them the contract they agreed to. That's it. Anything else would be exploitation.
Doolstar70
Player Valuation: £1m
None of us know what has gone on behind the scenes, how much work and effort has been expended. What we are seeing is final frustration because after all the work, the contract has not been signed. It leaves Koeman and Walsh with a headache because it's another position to recruit for. Ross is gone, and when it happens I'll wish him all the luck of Rodwell and Stones because he's making a huge mistake. Fans elsewhere won't give him half the latitude we do. But the point on Koeman handling of the situation i think is moot.
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