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Ross Barkley

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The Penalty Box Dancer said:
When you go away with England and the lads get talking, that's when you change. When you find out what Delle Ali is earning at Spurs and what bonus scheme he is on, you might begin to think "Why am I only getting xxxx a week?" Ali is a better footballer but is in a better team. Ross is not far off in terms of ability and would shine in that Spurs team.

Not just Ali but imagine 6 or 7 of them all go together one evening, do you honestly think they aren't gonna discuss their wages? Don't be naïve, they are young lads earning a fortune. Even on a smaller scale, a bunch of lads under 24 who work as plumbers, sparkies, gas fitters, offshore, whatever. They'll talk about their pay and how to make more money, they'll talk about their future prospects. Out of that group you'll get one lad who'll think "I want to look into becoming an electrician, I need to learn the wiring regs and go on a course" etc etc. You'll also get someone in that group saying "You should have a look into getting into my industry, they pay good, the work is good blah blah" I think you all get what I'm talking about and it's no different from footballers. They are young and it is natural to talk about what they are getting, what it's like playing in the Champions League, going to finals, playing in high pressure games. Once lads from other clubs speak up about how much they're enjoying their football, working with xxxx, playing at xxxx, you are gonna start thinking about it, you are gonna turn up at finch farm in a stinking mood because you feel you are missing out on something somewhere else. You've been driving to the same training ground for six years, when football is on a global scale and there is opportunities everywhere.

If you work with somebody who has the same experience and the same job title but earns more, what do you do?
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I stopped agreeing when I read "playing in high pressure games".
 
terraloon said:
Yep in one

There is clearly far more to this than we know.If it was just one player then maybe maybe it could be explained away but it's not.

Some on here say that RK doesn't rate Ros. Had that been the case there is no way that he or indeed any competent board would have sanctioned what is reported would have made RB the highest player in Everton's history. As an aside that barrier is going to have to be breached significantly if you want to attract top players to the club or keep those players that are show their worth.
If he didn't fit , wasn't up to up, wasn't liked by the manager or for whatever reason then quietly and professionally behind closed doors his agent should have been told what's what the agent would then be permitted to go looking for another club.You don't play this type of situation out in news conferences it's not professional and from the player and his agent I suspect it's viewed as confrontational and far from facilitating a resolution I suspect it's done nothing other than make Ros and his agent more determined to hold out for whatever they are looking for.

Far too many on here are pointing fingers at RB and how he has or hasn't acted.For me he has done nothing wrong he has kept his own counsel he clearly isn't happy with something most suspect it's about the money and it may well be but for me it's just as likely to be more to it and I can only keep going back to Roms reasons for not signing a new deal and that can't be viewed as anything other than a worry.
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So, you're upset at some pointing a finger at Ross, but are happy to point the finger at the Board or the manager? OK.
 
Brisan123 said:
I stopped reading when you said ROSS was not far off in terms of ability compared to Alli
By the way Ali earns a little more than 55k so that's your other argument out the window
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Exactly my point, so when he is away with the England lads and hears people are earning more, he is going to want that for himself or similar. That is what my whole post is all about.
 

orly said:
buying or selling Don?
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No club will pay 50 million, and the reported higher wage allegedly Ross has been offered - so maybe the board are testing him out so he may see sense, and sign- as I stated before this would have better handled in house no ultimatums etc etc !
Lukaku may go no ultimatums for him hey!
 
25 mill and I would snatch there hands off. He is always going to get a red card in the big games and appears mentally weak
Be glad see the back of him now dont think he is a positive person around the club now, sooner we get shut the better
 

Joey66 said:
No club will pay 50 million, and the reported higher wage allegedly Ross has been offered - so maybe the board are testing him out so he may see sense, and sign- as I stated before this would have better handled in house no ultimatums etc etc !
Lukaku may go no ultimatums for him hey!
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Not arsed if he stays or leaves. Don't think he can be a starter in any top 6 team. I guess Koeman told him he would not be an auto starter at this club anymore.
 
Its simple the lad has natural ability but doesnt have the footballing brain to use the talent to its fullest potential. Koeman has given up on him as he knows he cant mold him in to the player he has been hyped to be and he doesnt fit in to the way he wants to play.

He is being baddely advised and may well end up at a mid table club.
 
Cels said:
Barkley: "Where's my Everton career?"

Koeman: "It's behind you!"
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terraloon said:
If that's the case then no way would Everton have made the new contract offer.

Barkley is a man, a footballer and as for this boyhood thing that's sentimental nonsense . As for this sense of entitlement other than RK saying he hadn't signed the new contract we have no idea why.
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Why wouldn't they offer him a contract? Your posts suggest you work for Barkleys agents or PR team. I agree with your comments that Ross has actually behaved well in the sense of keeping quiet about the situation and not going to the press. I will be very interested in hearing his reasons once a move has been secured.I expect he will use the same reasons as Rom i.e. CL football. Whilst I can accept that with Rom I believe that Barkley owed the club another spell to build something and work towards CL after Everton being the club that has stood by him for his entire career until now. Rooney was bad enough but we are in a far better position now than then and he could stay and be a legend or go to Spurs and end up as an also ran.
 

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