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2017/18 Ross Barkley

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Kev The Rat said:
Cannot see any way that we would refuse an offer from Spurs that was equal to Chelseas, despite whatever spurs briefed journalists may or may not be reporting. There's too much money at stake for that kind of misplaced pride.

Your argument will fall apart once he signs for spurs in January or in the summer.
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Yeah I'm not buying this. I can understand it weeks ago if Chelsea wanted a period of exclusivity. But on deadline day with the player having 1 year left on his contract, Everton would have to be mad to agree to that. I know we can be incompetent but surely we're not that incompetent!
 
This is how i see it.

If Chelsea offer 35mil and Spurs offer 30mil then we rightly accept Chelsea and tell spurs no. Ross then could do 2 things, do an Ox and tell Chelsea to do one, then we go back to Spurs and agree, or speak to them and do a daft u turn. He chose the latter.

This is why I doubt that we wouldn't speak to spurs, as why would we turn down the chance of 30mil when we will likely now only get 20 in Jan?

I just don't think spurs bid
 
ianefc said:
He has his heart set on Spurs, Spurs are not the type of club that will pay £35m for a injured player in August when they can get him for £15m in January saving them £20m. What's so hard to understand?
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Not a million miles away from my thoughts although I can't help but feel any fee will be south of £10 million.

if you look at Spurs transfer dealings in the window the nett is close to zero.

I am not saying that they haven't had a good window but Levy is walking a tightrope in that even though £400 million of funding is in place to finance the stadium build and that added to money already spent there remains a gap in funding of amounting to over £160 million and that sum is based on estimates and not an agreed fixed cost. The fall in the value of the £ is an issue.

For me Spurs quite simply didn't have anything like £20 million let alone £30 million available hence why I am pretty sure they didn't bid.

For me there are really only two possibility as to what happened

First no point taking a medical RB would not in his current state of fitness pass one . In reality it's highly unlikely a club is going to risk £35 million and a whopping contract. The risk would be too high but hey from Everton's point of view it was too good an offer to refuse and who knows despite what I have just said even though it was unlikely you never know.

Once a fee had been agreed Chelsea will have got wind either through initial discussions with the player or Everton releasing appropriate documentation to Chelsea ,that would entail the transfer of the players medical records then no doubt the whole tone of the discussion between player and Chelsea would be different even if they were prepared to take the risk.
For instance say we will pay in year one £75 k basic (are whatever figure he is currently getting) and say £50k per appearance. Would that be acceptable if he were wanting or indeed expecting far more?

The other option is for me is all about money. Smaller or no fee be that at Chelsea or indeed Spurs in England means all or part of that £35 million or whatever can be re cycled into wages without the need for a % being paid to governing bodies. a £20 million signing on fee paid over say 5 years added to a wage of say £120 k a week is far more lucrative to the player andhis agent.

Irrespective the losers here are going to be Everton despite him being in the squad list it's highly unlikely he will ever play for Everton again but till he leaves he is still getting a decent wedge.
 

royvernon39 said:
The thing is that Barkley has got as much chance of starting regularly at CFC as he would have at Spurs i.e. not much.

So this is about money.
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I actually think he's got more chance of playing at Chelsea if you look at the respective midfields. If you want to win things go with Chelsea, hard to argue with Conte's track record.
 
wiggum23 said:
This is how i see it.

If Chelsea offer 35mil and Spurs offer 30mil then we rightly accept Chelsea and tell spurs no. Ross then could do 2 things, do an Ox and tell Chelsea to do one, then we go back to Spurs and agree, or speak to them and do a daft u turn. He chose the latter.

This is why I doubt that we wouldn't speak to spurs, as why would we turn down the chance of 30mil when we will likely now only get 20 in Jan?

I just don't think spurs bid
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Spuds and Ross agents will have an agreement in place, levy written all over it.

Chelsea offered, we accepted, Ross had no intention of completing

This is Ross agents getting a cracker deal for Ross: Spuds and yes the agents ..

His agent has no interest in the welfare of Ross and his family whatsoever. ...I bet you he advises him "look at Rooney, after time people forget and you can go back"

This is rat material and the lives and abuse towards Ross and family will be vicious by some fans......

So badly advised on this one and unfortunately he cannot see it
 
Gwladysstreetlad said:
You don't think that Chelsea would of denied it had that been the case? It makes them look shocking for a player of Barkleys standards to turn them down. They aren't some mid table side who have to make phantom bids on players they can't get to make themselves look good for the fans. Why on earth would the champions need Ross Barkley for a cheep PR showing?! It just sounds ridiculous that either Everton FC or Chelsea FC (let alone both!) would lie and conspire to crap on Ross Barkley!
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That's the simplest explanation and therefore most probably the correct one in this case.
 

Eggs said:
...not so sure it is. He'd have pocketed £3.5m and got more wages at Chelsea than Spurs who have a strict salary structure. He's taking a huge gamble if he's now waiting for Tottenham. I think Everton will play hard ball in January, I can't see Chelsea coming back in for him.

A Bosman in 12 months may be lucrative but he'll have lost a full year of massive wages at Chelsea and clubs will be wary of taking somebody who has been out of the limelight for so long. It really is a bizarre and nonsensical situation that I find very difficult to evaluate. There is of course the possibility of signing his new deal at Everton but it looks like a number of ships have sailed.
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Also missing out on a WC Eggs.

The whole saga is bizarre and I find it hard to understand how he can have his heart so set on a club that is content to hang him out to dry in a WC year.
 
'I simply decided that due to my injury, it would be best to make a decision on my future and assess all my options in January when fully fit'

After running his contract down for two years he comes out with this - Does he really think we're all that stupid?

I envisage hatred on the Barmby + scale

What is it with local 'true-blues' who play for the club? Most Evertonians I know wouldn't even put another teams shirt on..never mind if doing it would lose the club millions and also risk becoming a pariah with your own people
 

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