2017/18 Ross Barkley

[MACCA75]

Ross has no interest in staying at Everton. And hasn’t for a long time.

Still people clinging to him, making excuses for him. Amuses me.

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

Don't go Ross lad, stay another day... and another Christmas.


Ya filthy animal

 

[yakublue]

Wasn't always a big Barkley fan, but surely as fans we must start learning lessons?? Stones isn't great?? Lukaku is lazy and we wont miss him?? Gerry was crap, Naismith was crap etc
No we see real crap on the pitch, welcome back Ross please stay, you are by far one of our best players and you will have my full support from now on!

Gerry and Naismith were both crap

 

[CJR]

Gerry and Naismith were both crap

Both a lot better than the rubbish I am watching now!

 

[yakublue]

Both a lot better than the rubbish I am watching now!

Yeah daytime TV is the worst

 

[degsy]

Does anyone know if Barkley is getting near to full fitness? If he was, would Unsworth play him?

tbh, I dont remember him getting injured...that is until all the hoo-har started in the close season.
Or does he 'have' to leave to remove him self from a toxic home life

 

[NCLBlue]

Wasn't always a big Barkley fan, but surely as fans we must start learning lessons?? Stones isn't great?? Lukaku is lazy and we wont miss him?? Gerry was crap, Naismith was crap etc
No we see real crap on the pitch, welcome back Ross please stay, you are by far one of our best players and you will have my full support from now on!

So many players who apparently aren’t good enough for us playing well at better teams than us.

Were languishing in the bottom half relegation zone - we were outplayed by Palace and Leicester ffs.

If he does want to leave to CL group winners Tottenham then I’m not surprised. Maybe the stink-out relationship with RK has made him look at moving on to a new club and now he’s already made his mind up.

We definitely need him though...

 

[ToffeeTim]

Over 3 months for a hammy is long tbh. It does look suspicious.

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

I'll be honest I will be shocked if we see him on the pitch for us again... I did think the problem was Fat Head, but evidently its more then just that.

Prob the jarg Mosh on Jim White show saying he was in Chelsea for a medical, when he denied it has finished him off.....

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

My hope is ebbing away to be honest

Starting to think we'll never see him in an Everton shirt again

 

[orly]

My hope is ebbing away to be honest

Starting to think we'll never see him in an Everton shirt again

Just put "ross barkley" into google images and you can see it everyday.

 

[APN_EFC]

I completely agree. Great post mate.

It's maddening these undulations. I can see why people feel a DoF is the way to go in ironing out these fluctuations in style and method. But I dont think it's a necessary post, tbh.

I look at Swansea for inspiration in that they had a clearly defined style they kept for years - possibly Monk's over-physical game was the beginning of the end for it. And that, as far as I'm aware, was down to clear headed thinking at boardroom level in their appointments and what they must have insisted on in interview with managers. Swansea kept their nerve and kept on a certain defined path with minimum fuss and performed well in excess of expectations because of the seamless change form manager to manager. That's what we should be aiming for.

Going back to Martinez: the answer wasn't then to throw the baby out with the bathwater; the answer was to replace Martinez with a similar manager with a similar approach but with more attention to small things in defence like set piece work. But our board went the other way and for another style...a style that goes away from what all other age groups in the organisation had adopted under the previous set up.

Madness.

Yes - clear headed thinking at board level is what we need. I wrote a big reply then just got tired. Agreeing is tiring because we're just some of us talking to ourselves. Can't wait for some success and good news!

 

[Stutheblue]

And if he stays...?

Hmmm. Could also be very tricky for him. Its a big 'if' though.
By the way I'm not one of those who always wanted him to leave. I like him (liked him), but that last 2 weeks of the window....

 

[Famous_Seamus]

By 1 goal.

Koeman had a striker who matured and also a midfielder who matured while Martinez was giving them their 1st/2nd full seasons

We also spread goals around the team under Martinez as Rom and Barkley developed.

Koeman spent £200mill to "spread goals"

Since this is the Barkley thread I don't want to go too far off track. All I say is it's a bit hypocritical to praise Martinez's brilliant attacking style when Koeman had better results on that front last year. It's also unfair to say Koeman simply inherited Rom and Ross when Martinez had them both as well and we got back to back 11th places... Just as Martinez did with Moyes, both managers inherited some good things and some bad things from their predecessor. Both failed, end of.

But when it comes to Ross, I don't put it on Koeman- we can go back and look at match day threads from Martinez era and find plenty of fans who think he plays passenger way too often.

And whoever brought up Del back a few pages ago- he was dropped by 3 separate managers, absolutely ridiculous people are still barking up that tree.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

Unsworth name-dropped him a couple of times in the presser in respect to returning players. Clearly sees him being back and part of the side soon.